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Bobby-G
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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 Posted - 07/10/2008 : 11:34:14 AM
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On the way to work, I usually pick up a copy of The Red Eye, a free daily put out by the Chicago Tribune. The thing is apparently aimed at "Generation Y" (what is that, 20 - 30 year olds??). One of the irritating things I find in the rag is when they have their articles/lists of "Best ofs" (movies, music etc); Seems if something is more than twenty years old, it might as well not exist.
Just this week, it had a list of notable duets in pop music, without mention Sinatra or anything pre- 80s (excuse me if I forgot what was on thierlist), and for "best" shock endings in movies, it has the remake of PLANET OF THE APES on the list, and aside from a line "remake of the Heston movie", it doesn't include the original on the list (I don't believe any of these articles said "best of the last 20 years" or any such qualifier).
I don't know if the writers and editors of the paper are just ignoramuses and don't know any better, or they assume that their readership just doesn't care about anything that might be considered "old" -- Whatever the case may be, limiting ones "culture" to things less than 25 years old seems a sure way to miss out on the majority of the really good stuff.
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Ericb
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 07/11/2008 : 06:07:20 AM
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It's probably more a form of cultural myopia than anmesia (how can you remember something you never experienced). It's also pretty awful journalism. As someone who is compulsive about exploring the history of any subject that interests me I find this attitude puzzling.
"You talk to us about heavy artillery. Thank God, we don't have any. It's the lightness of its guns that make the French army what it is." - representative of the French General Staff to the budget commission of the Chamber of Deputies, 1909 |
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Flangepart
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 07/11/2008 : 4:41:01 PM
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Originally posted by Ericb
It's probably more a form of cultural myopia than anmesia (how can you remember something you never experienced). It's also pretty awful journalism. As someone who is compulsive about exploring the history of any subject that interests me I find this attitude puzzling.
Kids today...feh!
Really, they are not well taught. History is an imperfect thing, but to see your now in context, requires seeing the foundations on which your now stands...and too many people are afraid of the dirty confusing story that human history.
But now...they don't even bother to try...(Sigh)...
Marvin the Paranoid Android to Buzz Lightyear "Too infinity and beyond-i've been there, its rubbish!"
"Hoody Hoo, i waste 'em with my cross bow!" Bob Herzog- KODT
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Greenhornet
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 07/11/2008 : 5:43:10 PM
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You can also blame it on television. Twenty years ago you could see dozens of old and new movies on TV, but in the last ten years, they just keep showing the same two-three dozen movies, often back-to-back. I believe that when one station --cable or broadcast-- gets tired of one movie, they send it to another station where it is also shown untill you know the dialog and stage direction better than the cast!
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zombiewhacker
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 07/11/2008 : 6:27:13 PM
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Originally posted by Greenhornet
You can also blame it on television. Twenty years ago you could see dozens of old and new movies on TV, but in the last ten years, they just keep showing the same two-three dozen movies, often back-to-back.
That's true. Turner Classics Movies has really become the last refuge for that kind of thing. Thanks to their late night weekend underground cinema showcase (who hosts it, again, I forget... Rob Zombie?) you can also occasionally see a few bad movies from cinema past to go along with the use high-end movies TCM viewers are used to seeing. |
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Sardu
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 07/11/2008 : 7:34:42 PM
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See, I was going to say the opposite- with the advent of DVD and dozens of cable movie channels it feels like there should be less excuse than ever for not having a chance to be exposed to good older films. And bad ones. Any young horror film buff today knows the original Day of the Dead or classic Universal monster movie just as well as any contemporary movie in the theaters. It makes what the Red Eye is doing sound like a completely intentional slight to me, for whatever reason.
"Meeting you makes me want to be a real noodle cook"
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hk6909
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 07/13/2008 : 4:57:02 PM
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Originally posted by Sardu
See, I was going to say the opposite- with the advent of DVD and dozens of cable movie channels it feels like there should be less excuse than ever for not having a chance to be exposed to good older films. And bad ones. Any young horror film buff today knows the original Day of the Dead or classic Universal monster movie just as well as any contemporary movie in the theaters. It makes what the Red Eye is doing sound like a completely intentional slight to me, for whatever reason.
"Meeting you makes me want to be a real noodle cook"
--Tampopo
I could be completely talking out of my ass here, but it seems to me that people in the 16-25 age range that actually care what movie they're watching, as opposed to the act of watching a movie with friends, are in the minority. So there really isn't a push to explore what's available so much.
Now we know what the south's gonna do again, get eaten by a huge fish. |
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zombiewhacker
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 07/13/2008 : 6:45:54 PM
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Terrahawk
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 07/13/2008 : 8:39:13 PM
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Originally posted by Sardu
See, I was going to say the opposite- with the advent of DVD and dozens of cable movie channels it feels like there should be less excuse than ever for not having a chance to be exposed to good older films. And bad ones. Any young horror film buff today knows the original Day of the Dead or classic Universal monster movie just as well as any contemporary movie in the theaters. It makes what the Red Eye is doing sound like a completely intentional slight to me, for whatever reason.
But, I think the problem with that theory is that you don't get "stuck" trying new things and you end up watching the same type of films over and over again. I don't know how many times I've ended up liking something and only watched it because it was the only thing on.
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Flangepart
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 07/15/2008 : 07:09:36 AM
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I just realised...'amnesia' may not be the best word...'ignorance' may fit better, cause how can you forget somthing you never learned?
unless you watch TMC, you may never see these classics.
Marvin the Paranoid Android to Buzz Lightyear "Too infinity and beyond-i've been there, its rubbish!"
"Hoody Hoo, i waste 'em with my cross bow!" Bob Herzog- KODT
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Bobby-G
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 07/16/2008 : 03:21:01 AM
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When I used "amnesia" I was assuming someone in the Editorial offices of the RedEye (and other such pubs) knew there were movies and music before 1987...
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Flangepart
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 07/16/2008 : 11:23:47 AM
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Originally posted by Bobby-G
When I used "amnesia" I was assuming someone in the Editorial offices of the RedEye (and other such pubs) knew there were movies and music before 1987...
Rob
Yeah, You'd think. But taint always so, McGee.
Marvin the Paranoid Android to Buzz Lightyear "Too infinity and beyond-i've been there, its rubbish!"
"Hoody Hoo, i waste 'em with my cross bow!" Bob Herzog- KODT
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