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Carrieattheprom
Minister of the Sacraments of Jabootu
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 Posted - 12/16/2005 : 3:09:57 PM
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Originally posted by Greenhornet
I saw the 70s remake on TV last night. It was even WORSE than I remembered it! (This time they showed the gunship crashing into the tower)
"The Queen is testing poisons." CLEOPATRA, 1935
Somethings have become VERY hard to watch post 9/11 that wouldn't have made me blink before 9/11.
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R. Dittmar
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 12/16/2005 : 10:12:48 PM
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Very, very sad news if true:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,178983,00.html
I'm a very big fan of Peter Jackson. I absolutely loved his jokey gore movies Bad Taste and Dead/Alive, his Muppets spoof Meet the Feebles and even his abortive American outing The Frighteners. I even loved his more serious true-crime outing Heavenly Creatures. Oddly enough I missed out on The Lord of the Rings craze, but I dislike fantasy fiction.
I'm just somewhat afraid that King Kong might be a flashier Psycho '98 - a remake of a film that didn't really warrant the remake treatment. The original was pretty accomplished on the special effects front already given its time and it came in at a snappy hour and a half rather than an iron-butt 3 hours. My sense of the thing is that it may be the result of a regrettable White Whale-like obssession with a particular story - exactly the sort of thing that resulted in Heaven's Gate. |
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GalahadPC
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 12/16/2005 : 11:11:18 PM
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On Thursday, Kong's take was a measly $6,295,755 — off $35.5 from Wednesday's weak $9,755,745 opening day. Kong ranks now as the 21st best Wednesday opening ever — a dubious distinction.
I don't know... Kong just doesn't seem like the kind of movie you'd want to watch in the middle of the week anyway, so I don't get why anybody would pronounce it a failure just yet.
My take is that it strikes me as one of those "greatest movies I never saw." I know it'll be a great experience, yet somehow it still just isn't enough to make me interested in heading to the theater just for its own sake. |
Edited by - GalahadPC on 12/16/2005 11:16:21 PM |
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zombiewhacker
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 12/17/2005 : 02:55:28 AM
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Universal's not throwing in the towel yet.
[url]http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=1965&p=.htm[/url]
Really, it's way too soon to get panicky. Most December movies make their biggest killing between Christmas and New Year's.
Also recall that Titanic was a December release which pulled in a mere $28.6 million opening weekend. |
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Greenhornet
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 12/17/2005 : 09:00:57 AM
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Heard a review just now and I have to mention a pet peeve I have about the origonal:
THOSE WERE NOT WORLD WAR ONE FIGHTER PLANES!!!!!!
WWI pursuit ships in 1933? Give me a break! The planes used in the classic appier to have been Boeing/Stearman trainers made up to look like Douglas observation planes, O-29s, I think. I'm sure that was what was seen takeing off from the airfield before the attack.
Now about the new movie. The review I hear called the planes "World War One Fighters" (Groan!) And they said that the heroine was being sacrificed by the natives and SAVED BY KONG.
Nooo!!!!!You dummies! She was being sacrificed TO KING KONG!
Also, the local newspaper had a still of them on the Empire State building "Shareing a quiet moment at sunrise".
NO, NO, NO!!!!!!!!
Kong and HIS VICTEM should NOT have anything approaching a romantic moment! She should be terrified!
My interest may have been killed before I even gave it a chance.
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Edited by - Greenhornet on 12/17/2005 10:02:00 AM |
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RVHorror
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
532 Posts |
Posted - 12/17/2005 : 09:57:19 AM
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Originally posted by GalahadPC
My take is that it strikes me as one of those "greatest movies I never saw." I know it'll be a great experience, yet somehow it still just isn't enough to make me interested in heading to the theater just for its own sake.
I feel the same way. Peter Jackson could film the phone book and make it entertaining and imaginative, but I've never been a huge Kong fan anyway. I'm sure I'll see it on video, but three hours seems an awful long time to stretch the story. It's not like Lord of the Rings which had a huge tapestry of threads to spin out and wind up. |
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Carrieattheprom
Minister of the Sacraments of Jabootu
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Posted - 12/17/2005 : 12:48:15 PM
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Originally posted by Greenhornet
Heard a review just now and I have to mention a pet peeve I have about the origonal:
THOSE WERE NOT WORLD WAR ONE FIGHTER PLANES!!!!!!
WWI pursuit ships in 1933? Give me a break! The planes used in the classic appier to have been Boeing/Stearman trainers made up to look like Douglas observation planes, O-29s, I think. I'm sure that was what was seen takeing off from the airfield before the attack.
Now about the new movie. The review I hear called the planes "World War One Fighters" (Groan!) And they said that the heroine was being sacrificed by the natives and SAVED BY KONG.
Nooo!!!!!You dummies! She was being sacrificed TO KING KONG!
Also, the local newspaper had a still of them on the Empire State building "Shareing a quiet moment at sunrise".
NO, NO, NO!!!!!!!!
Kong and HIS VICTEM should NOT have anything approaching a romantic moment! She should be terrified!
My interest may have been killed before I even gave it a chance.
"The Queen is testing poisons." CLEOPATRA, 1935
All Fay Wray got to do in the original was scream. Jackson's given our heroine a little more to sink her teeth into by making the feeling a little more mutual. I think it would actually help the movie myself. (Just my opinion, you don't have to agree)
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TimLehnerer
Diocesan Ecclesiarch of the Sacred Order of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 12/17/2005 : 3:52:27 PM
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>>Something is certainly wrong. It could be the movie's daunting length, or even a slow middle section that would have benefited from cutting.<<
"Slow middle section"? What movie did THEY see? The middle section is the HOUR OF THE MOVIE THAT IS ON SKULL ISLAND, WITH NOT ONE BUT FOUR SEPARATE MONSTER ATTACKS WHERE EVERYONE'S RUNNING IN TERROR EVERY SINGLE SECOND. Perhaps they didn't actually see the film, and are merely talking smack about a (perceived) weak target. Or they could just be stupid. |
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Kit Rex
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 12/17/2005 : 8:31:49 PM
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Well, all I know is I saw it this evening and, though it was three hours long, like the LOTR movies, it didn't feel long. It kept my interest throughout. It was exactly as long as it needed to be to tell the story it needed to. And the house was close to packed.
Of course, the admission at the theater I went to was only $3.00, but still...
I hate mankind, for I think myself one of the best of them, and I know how bad I am. - Samuel Johnson
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Ubiq
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 12/18/2005 : 12:36:27 PM
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I hope it doesn't flop, it's a genuinely great film, though I still prefer the original.
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Originally posted by Greenhornet
And they said that the heroine was being sacrificed by the natives and SAVED BY KONG. Nooo!!!!!
Did the person reviewing it even see the film? Either version?
I can understand the misidentification of the planes in both versions (as most people would probably identify a plane with guns that doesn't drop bombs as a fighter), but how could anybody come to the conclusion that Kong intended to rescue Ann?
As a side note, Jackson's version has an interesting take on what happened to the earlier sacrifices.
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Kong and HIS VICTEM should NOT have anything approaching a romantic moment! She should be terrified!
Actually, this version puts a different light on the relationship. She's genuinely grateful to him for saving her from danger and he regards her as a particularly interesting pet.
As I said, I still prefer the original, but this version did a much better job of explaining why Kong puts up with her. I never could understand why he wouldn't just let the T-Rex eat her just so he wouldn't have to hear her scream anymore.
BM: I should have mentioned this at the beginning. I solve my problems with violence. |
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Zev
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 12/18/2005 : 12:57:51 PM
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I saw it, loved it. It took a while to get going (Did we really need to spend so much time on Denham's financial woes and Ann being a struggling actress? We know they're going to Skull Island), but once it did it didn't let up ever. And it actually had some characters you cared about rather than "Everyone but the leads die horribly."
And dude... Kong fights a T-Rex. That alone is worth the price of admission.
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Now they need to make a movie where soldiers in Iraq actually find one of Saddam Hussein's secret underground chemical weapons facilities only to find it overrrun with big mutant sand spiders. And the the film will be called IRAQNID!
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CobraCmdr
Diocesan Ecclesiarch of the Sacred Order of Jabootu
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Posted - 12/20/2005 : 08:04:00 AM
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I freakin loved this movie. In a year of really good movies, this one is my new favorite. I loved the original as a kid, and this movie just seemed to be tailor made for me. I went with two friends who both complained about it being overly long, but I could care less. Kong is more than an effect, he was a fully developed character who I wanted to root for even as he was stomping people left and right.
A lot of people might be disapointed by this remake and I can see why, but for me this film just clicked. |
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dconner
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 12/22/2005 : 09:10:35 AM
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Originally posted by Ubiq
Actually, this version puts a different light on the relationship. She's genuinely grateful to him for saving her from danger and he regards her as a particularly interesting pet.
As I said, I still prefer the original, but this version did a much better job of explaining why Kong puts up with her. I never could understand why he wouldn't just let the T-Rex eat her just so he wouldn't have to hear her scream anymore.
I loved the movie, and especially this aspect of it.
If Fay Wray had been the heroine in this movie, she would've been pulled apart by Kong right quick - as you say, to shut the little screaming thing up. This version's a little savvier.
But the real key to this movie is that technology lets Peter Jackson (and Andy Serkis) make Kong more of a real *character* - and thus one you can more readily sympathize with.
The 1933 Kong was a great creation, but the state of the art technology of the time could only give him the broadest of characterizations. In the 2005 film, you really see how Kong and Ann can make a real connection to each other, and their relationship is quite believable. |
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Joshua513
Altar Boy of Jabootu
Austria
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Posted - 12/22/2005 : 2:52:41 PM
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Originally posted by RVHorror
Let's not forget that the Bogart/Huston version of "The Maltese Falcon" was the third go-round.As fo
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John Doe
Diocesan Ecclesiarch of the Sacred Order of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 12/22/2005 : 5:14:43 PM
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Hmm, the spam bots are getting more sophisticated. This doesn't bode well.
my eyes!! the goggles do nothing!! |
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