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R. Dittmar
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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 Posted - 12/30/2007 : 11:27:48 AM
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Is anyone else excited by the possibility that Cruise’s latest may be one of the rarest of rarae aves – an actual paean to Jabootu that gets a big budget theatrical release? The premise in itself (heroic Nazis?) is dubious to say the least. We’re sure to have funny accents and – since the character Cruise is playing was nearly crippled in the war – some Inspector Clouseau-esque prosthetics. Word is out that it is going horrendously over-budget – a clear sign of a runaway production. And the most interesting aspect is the fact that it seems to be being produced by Cruise’s own production company raising the possibility that it is in fact a vanity production! All told, the signs auger well for the minions of Jabootu:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,311929,00.html
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Sardu
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 12/30/2007 : 11:45:27 AM
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I saw this trailer- it must have been in front of Beowulf because that's all I've seen in a theater in the last year. (That's a whole other thread... yeesh...) My main thoughts were:
1) Tom Cruise looks ridiculous in that eye patch.
2) Tom Cruise still comes off like a snotty frat boy
3) What's up with the (non) accent (BTW all the other Germans appear to be British- yeah, THAT makes sense.)
4) This film was clearly written using a Plot-o-matic 2000
5) If I hear one more second of this lame-a$$ Media Ventures sounding action trailer music with the big anvils and booms I will run from this theater screaming and I don't care if they call the guys with butterfly nets
It didn't seem like the second coming of Day The Clown Cried, just a deeply pointless and cliched movie. But, we can hope.
BTW, did you catch the director?? Brian Singer!! Dude- what HAPPENED??
"Meeting you makes me want to be a real noodle cook"
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Edited by - Sardu on 12/30/2007 11:47:44 AM |
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Ericb
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 12/30/2007 : 1:20:26 PM
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Von Stauffenberg wasn't a Nazi, though his lack of National Socialist credentials hardly makes him a hero. He was your basic militaristic, monarchist Prussian who had seemed to have no problem with Germany conquering Europs and using slavs as slave labor. Here's the wiki article on him. Not the type of figure to inspire a feelgood movie.
A more interesting figure is Kurt Gerstein. He was an SS officer that tried to sneak info about the Final Solution to the outside world. Not an unambiguously heroic figure (did he do enough good to justify being in the SS in the first place?) but he would make an interesting subject for a film. Here's the wiki article on him
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Gerstein
"I reserve the right to look as well as be boring." - Robert Fripp |
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Ericb
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Spain
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Posted - 12/30/2007 : 2:06:50 PM
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I think it may turn up as a good movie. I mean, it has an intriguing perspective (the last time I saw nazis as "the good ones" was in The Cross of Iron) and a good director at the helm, Bryan Singer. And have you seen the supporting cast? Not even Xenu could make this one a stinker.
About Cruise... he's done his share of crazy stuff, but contrary to other have-been he still can do decent acting here and there. And he was great in Collateral, remember? |
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Sardu
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 12/30/2007 : 3:02:04 PM
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Originally posted by Neville
About Cruise... he's done his share of crazy stuff, but contrary to other have-been he still can do decent acting here and there. And he was great in Collateral, remember?
Sure. Because he was playing a variation of a self-absorbed punk. TAPS: dangerous psycho self-absorbed punk. Risky Business: lovable self-absorbed punk. Eyes Wide Shut: everyman self-absorbed punk. Collateral: dangerous psycho self-absorbed punk. Magnolia (a movie I hate with the blinding light of 1,000 white hot suns but some seem to like him in): loud mouthed obnoxious self-absorbed punk. I think there is a pattern.
Any of his sympathetic hero pictures have sucked royally.
"Meeting you makes me want to be a real noodle cook"
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zombiewhacker
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 12/30/2007 : 3:19:08 PM
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| Jamie Foxx was great in Collateral. Cruise was marginal at best. There are tons of actors out there who could have done a much better job with that role than ol' Maverick. Crowe, Denzel, S.L. Jackson, and Clooney spring immediately to mind. Not to mention Daniel Craig, who in his pre-Bond days the producers could have gotten for a song. |
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Cannon Fodder
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu
Australia
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Posted - 12/31/2007 : 12:17:15 AM
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I actually thought Collateral would have been a lot better and instead of casting one of the currently most famous and well known movie stars in Hollywood in the role of the hitman if they had gone for somebody completely or at least relatively unknown. The character was meant to be low-key and ordinary seeming but the whole time you're watching it you know it's just Tom Cruise acting a bit quieter than normal. But yeah, Cruise is great at playing cocky and shallow self absorbed gits.
As for Valkyrie I'm not that pessimistic. The miscast lead character withstanding, if handled right it has the potential to be a good movie. It does have a great supporting cast and a sometimes excellent director. |
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New Hinda
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Israel
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Posted - 12/31/2007 : 09:49:52 AM
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Originally posted by Neville
I think it may turn up as a good movie. I mean, it has an intriguing perspective (the last time I saw nazis as "the good ones" was in The Cross of Iron) and a good director at the helm, Bryan Singer. And have you seen the supporting cast? Not even Xenu could make this one a stinker.
You're right. Von Stauffenberg, while not lily-white, would make an intriguing hero. |
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