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Triviachamp
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Posted - 10/30/2005 : 1:32:26 PM
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I guess Colin Farrel's bar tabs are really hurting the film! But seriously, greenlighted a $120 Million movie of Miami Vice? Where does the money go in these sorts of non-CGI movies? No wonder Hollywood is in such a slump if every underperforming movie must cost over $150 million!
http://www.nypost.com/gossip/pagesix.htm
quote: 'MIAMI VICE' AWASH IN WOES
THE long-awaited movie version of "Miami Vice" is threatening to turn into a big disaster for Universal, with the picture far behind schedule and way over budget, insiders say.
Sources tell PAGE SIX the screen version of the popular '80s TV series that starred Don Johnson and Philip Michael Thomas is mired in production difficulties including:
The movie was supposed to shoot for three months, but is now six months over schedule - with no end in sight.
According to a well-informed source, "Miami Vice" was "greenlit at $120 million, but the budget has been blown and it is now costing upwards of $180 million. And they aren't even done yet. It will likely be a $200 million tab by the end of shooting."
Adding to the budget problems, filming has to be moved from Miami to Peru because of Hurricane Wilma damage.
The script is "not good," according to several people who have read it. "This will bomb," said one.
Stars Jamie Foxx and Colin Farrell have become slightly bloated, with Farrell sporting "beer boobs" due to their constant partying in Miami. Farrell, in particular, has been carousing at almost every hotel bar and club in town, at times drinking VOX vodka straight from the bottle.
Farrell is "having a hard time with director Michael Mann," said another insider. "Michael (who also directed the TV series) is a perfectionist and will do a shot over and over and over. Jamie worked with him on 'Collateral' and was used to how he works, but Colin has been very frustrated."
In addition, there have been reports of fights between Farrell and Foxx - Foxx, who won his Oscar after signing up for "Vice," was said to be upset that Farrell was being paid more than he was, so he demanded his paycheck be boosted from $7.5 million to $10 million to match his co-star.
Some insiders at Universal - which has had a rough year with releases like "Cinderella Man" bombing at the box office - blame the studio's former co-presidents of production, Mary Parent and Scott Stuber, for greenlighting the "Miami Vice" movie in the first place.
A rep for the studio said he'd get back to us on our story but didn't.
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Neville
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Posted - 10/30/2005 : 2:50:30 PM
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Hope it doesn't bomb, Michael Mann is one of my favourite directors and I have been building serious expectations around his last film.
And yes, he's got a fame of being too perfectionist. Javier Bardem, who plays a small part as a drug dealer in "Collateral" says he had to do almost 30 takes of his only scene in the film.
Don't know what to say about Farrel; he's been in a number of films since his "Tigerland" days and I'm still trying to understand all the hype about him. |
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Capt. Nemo
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Posted - 10/30/2005 : 10:33:43 PM
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TheFoywonder
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Posted - 10/30/2005 : 10:38:42 PM
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Sounds to me like this is the epitome of a runaway production.
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Mr. Blue
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Posted - 10/31/2005 : 01:04:05 AM
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Well, "Michael Mann" and "Camp Appeal" usually don't go together, so no worries on that account.
"Because, as we all know, when it comes to saving the world, no-one gets the job done quite like a bunch of sleazy, drunken, irresponsible morons."-Lyz of AYCYAS |
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Juniper
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Posted - 10/31/2005 : 02:00:22 AM
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I've never gotten the appeal of Farrell, I mean if I even start to think about him too long I can feel the sores start to form around my mouth. But I was going to give this a shot for Jamie Foxx. I still am I just hope Mann doesn't feel like the budget is better spent on explosions than the characters.
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twitterpate
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Posted - 10/31/2005 : 08:44:18 AM
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I will admit Farrell is a pretty decent actor - however, I don't see him as a $10,000,000-per-role leading man yet.
I have a feeling that he's become a "star" in the same way Paris Hilton has - by making the gossip pages on such a regular basis that everyone knows who he is, even if they've never seen anything he's actually done. Farrell the party animal gets a lot more press than Farrell the actor, and while that may work for a while, it may end up hurting his career. He tends to come off in interviews less like "charming Irish scallywag" and more like "sullen drunken womanizer".
Juniper's comment "I mean if I even start to think about him too long I can feel the sores start to form around my mouth...." seems to hit the nail on the head for me. |
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MikeC
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Posted - 10/31/2005 : 09:29:58 AM
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The money generally goes, eventually, to the mobster-like talent agencies. They are a big reason (though not the only one) for spirialing film costs in many cases.
And in Farrell's case: it'll just cover his bar tab....
MikeC, fellow irishman.... |
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CDiehl
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Posted - 10/31/2005 : 10:56:02 AM
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1. Why was this meant to cost $120 million? Hasn't the movie industry ever heard the saying "garbage in, garbage out"? Throwing money at a crappy script doesn't cover up the fact that it's crappy. This is more a general suggestion, since I have no idea how good this script is.
2. Why is Colin Farrell able to go out and drink while shooting a movie? I think it's long past time the movie industry started demanding actors stay clean when making a movie, if only to keep from having to deal with the fallout when they do something stupid while under the influence.
3. Jamie Foxx needs to get some perspective. First of all, $7.5 million is still more than most of us will see in a lifetime, and this is for one movie. Second, having an Oscar is no reason to get a swelled head. Cuba Gooding, Jr. has one, and look at his career since then. Third, who cares what someone else is making; you signed up for 7.5, so if you think you got screwed, blame your management.
4. It seems odd that Michael Mann would be such a perfectionist about this project, since it seems like the sort of movie that's meant to come out in the summer. However, I seem to recall he directed the pilot, and I think he might have envisioned something more serious and artistic than the show we ended up with, and thinks this movie will help redress that. On one hand, it is laudable that someone working on this movie takes it seriously enough to give it his best effort. On the other hand, it reminds me of what Ken wrote about a gourmet chef making a hamburger.
You know Grand Funk, don't you? The wild, shirtless lyrics of Mark Farner? The bong-rattling bass of Mel Schacher? The ... adequate drumwork of Don Brewer? |
Edited by - CDiehl on 10/31/2005 10:58:54 AM |
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Flangepart
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Posted - 10/31/2005 : 2:49:28 PM
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Yes, but is there room for G. Gordon Liddy as the one bad guy who got away from Crockett and Tubbs?
"Reality is arguable...lunch time is not." H. Flangepart.
"One Weekend a month my ass!" Crow- The Beginning of the End.
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Triviachamp
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Posted - 10/31/2005 : 5:54:52 PM
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tam1MI
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Posted - 10/31/2005 : 7:22:57 PM
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I suspect that Mann spent a pretty hefty sum obtaining clearances for songs to be used in the movie - the soundtrack was an integral part of the TV series, and "back in the day" when Mann was running "Vice" he didn't stint in that area. I remember reading somewhere that, as a result of that, at one point "Miami Vice" was the most expensive series on the air.
quote: Originally posted by twitterpate Farrell the party animal gets a lot more press than Farrell the actor
Look what that did for Robert Downey, Jr. |
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Capt. Nemo
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Posted - 10/31/2005 : 11:40:51 PM
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This might be an interesting opportunity here.
I found Ken's review about behind-the-scenes books like "Blockbuster: How Hollywood Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Summer" very interesting. But it lacked (with good reason) details about movies the subject was about. My hope is that someone might tell the tale about "Miami Vice". What were the details about what went wrong and why? It's Jabootu in action.
Trying to find out what causes a film to go straight to hell can be at least as entertaining as the movie itself (if not more so).
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twitterpate
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Posted - 11/01/2005 : 08:23:29 AM
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quote: Originally posted by CDiehl
2. Why is Colin Farrell able to go out and drink while shooting a movie? I think it's long past time the movie industry started demanding actors stay clean when making a movie, if only to keep from having to deal with the fallout when they do something stupid while under the influence.
One would think that such a "morality clause" would be common sense in the industry. In effect, a movie star is like a star athlete - if they abuse their body until they cannot give a good performance OR if they alienate a significant portion of their fan base, the whole enterprise suffers. Perhaps Mann and Farrell wouldn't need 30 takes if Farrell hadn't been swigging straight vodka till the wee hours the night before.
It makes me think that Hollywood is so fueled now by intoxicating/illegal substances that even the top brass can't conceive of a production without them. |
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John Nowak
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Posted - 11/01/2005 : 3:07:29 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Capt. Nemo
This might be an interesting opportunity here.
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My hope is that someone might tell the tale about "Miami Vice". What were the details about what went wrong and why? It's Jabootu in action.
Trying to find out what causes a film to go straight to hell can be at least as entertaining as the movie itself (if not more so).
Yeah, I agree with that. There's a pretty good book about "Bonfire of the Vanities," (Devil's Candy, I think), but even that one never really came to grips with the dreadful reputation the film developed.
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Neville
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Posted - 11/01/2005 : 3:35:30 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Flangepart
Yes, but is there room for G. Gordon Liddy as the one bad guy who got away from Crockett and Tubbs?
Didn't Phil Collins got away as well? It would be nice to see him in a cameo. |
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