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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Spain
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 Posted - 11/28/2005 : 09:41:04 AM
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| Plus Tom Clancy showed in "Rainbow Six" that ecologists trying to destroy the world while uttering evil laughs were as silly and preposterous as any other kind of super-villains. |
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Ubiq
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 11/28/2005 : 6:42:01 PM
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Originally posted by Neville
Plus Tom Clancy showed in "Rainbow Six" that ecologists trying to destroy the world while uttering evil laughs were as silly and preposterous as any other kind of super-villains.
The problem with ecoterrorists is that it's hard to display them as a credible threat because of both their methods and their goals.
An ecoterrorist that is willing to cause destruction on a massive scale will almost invariably come across as a hypocrite who doesn't really believe the views that he's espousing.
As far as the goals as concerned, it'll either fall into two different categories:
1) Why in the name of God would you want to kill anybody over that?
2) You know, he's kinda got a point.
In the first scenario, their motivation actively undermines the character. In the latter case, you have to wonder why somebody is going out of their way to stop them.
Really, about the only ecoterrorist that I can think of that didn't come across as a joke was R'as Al Gul from Batman: The Animated Series.
BM: I should have mentioned this at the beginning. I solve my problems with violence. |
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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Spain
1590 Posts |
Posted - 11/29/2005 : 01:48:02 AM
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| True. Everytime people say they would like to see ecologists as villains I remember Stromberg from "The spy who loved me", and how silly the scene where he details his plans is. Of course, since the appeal of TSWLM came mostly from its intentional camp it didn't do much damage. |
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governor_breck
Diocesan Ecclesiarch of the Sacred Order of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 11/29/2005 : 10:31:20 AM
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Originally posted by Terrahawk
Imagine the surprise some people would get out of a movie if the environmentalist was the evil doer.
I believe there are several films in which an environmentalist nutcase is the villain. Poison Ivy in Batman and Robin comes to mind.
Raj Al-Ghul in the Batman cartoons and comic books is kind of an ecology-minded villan. |
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Desslar
Diocesan Ecclesiarch of the Sacred Order of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 11/30/2005 : 2:26:22 PM
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| And don't forget Seagal's flirtation with ecoterrorism in On Deadly Ground. |
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Flangepart
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
2329 Posts |
Posted - 11/30/2005 : 2:57:37 PM
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And no mention yet of MOONRAKER?
"See that some harm, comes to him..."
"Cole, stop handing Dr. Doom the Keys to the Baxter building." Brent Sienna/PvP.
"One Weekend a month my ass!" Crow- The Beginning of the End.
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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Spain
1590 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2005 : 02:52:30 AM
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Moonraker! Moonraker! He said the forbidden word!
(Neville head explodes) |
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Flangepart
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
2329 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2005 : 10:59:31 AM
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D'oh!....i am NOT cleaning up the mess! No one told me that Moo...that movie title was forbidden. If Spanish heads explode because the forbidden word is forbidden, and i don't get the memo, then on your own exploded head be it!
"Cole, stop handing Dr. Doom the Keys to the Baxter building." Brent Sienna/PvP.
"One Weekend a month my ass!" Crow- The Beginning of the End.
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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Spain
1590 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2005 : 2:11:25 PM
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| (Trying to scream only to find his mouth, and the rest of the head, is missing. Harlan Ellison would find the whole thing an excellent excuse for a lawsuit) |
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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Spain
1590 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2005 : 2:17:50 PM
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(Now speaking through a wooden head and expecting the H.P. Lovecraft heirs won't sue him)
No real harm was done, Flangepart, my brain is not of much use these days. Anyway, if the brain machines from "Total Recall" or "The eternal sunshine of spotless mind" existed, the only use I would find for them would be to erase any memory of watching that darn movie. |
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tam1MI
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
558 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2005 : 5:55:37 PM
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Originally posted by BradH812
Get in a movie that preaches without a good story... and you get Beyond Borders. Or The Contender. Or The Life of David Gale. Ugh!
While I agree with your overall point, I must object to the inclusion of The Life of David Gale on your list. Having actually suffered throughwatched this movie, I can assure you that, while it did everything in it's power to fool people into believing that it was a preachy movie with a Deep Important Message, it was really a notably sick exploitation flick from beginning to end. |
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BradH812
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 12/01/2005 : 7:59:30 PM
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Originally posted by tam1MI
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Originally posted by BradH812
Get in a movie that preaches without a good story... and you get Beyond Borders. Or The Contender. Or The Life of David Gale. Ugh!
While I agree with your overall point, I must object to the inclusion of The Life of David Gale on your list. Having actually suffered throughwatched this movie, I can assure you that, while it did everything in it's power to fool people into believing that it was a preachy movie with a Deep Important Message, it was really a notably sick exploitation flick from beginning to end.
Come to think of it, I could say the same about Beyond Borders. |
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Dirk
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
237 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2005 : 8:18:24 PM
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Oh, you can't ignore Moonraker! It contains possibly the lamest Bond pun in history:
Drax: "You are not a sportsman, Mr. Bond - why did you break off the encounter with my pet python?"
Bond: "I discovered he had a crush on me."
Whaa whaa whaaaaaaa! |
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Culfy
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/02/2005 : 07:44:58 AM
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Originally posted by Dirk
Oh, you can't ignore Moonraker! It contains possibly the lamest Bond pun in history:
Drax: "You are not a sportsman, Mr. Bond - why did you break off the encounter with my pet python?"
Bond: "I discovered he had a crush on me."
Whaa whaa whaaaaaaa!
Sorry, but I consider that to be up with Tom Lehrer, S J Perelman and Grouch Marx at their best when compared with most of the dialogue from Die Another Day
"Oh James, can't you leave it in a bit longer"
You see what they did there? They were talking about a diamond in Hailie Berry's belly button but you thought they were talking about.....
oh never mind
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Flangepart
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
2329 Posts |
Posted - 12/02/2005 : 11:34:20 AM
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Lame indeed! Danger Mouse could do better...if fact, he does!
DM - " I speak 34 different languages. But gibberish is not one of them."
"Cole, stop handing Dr. Doom the Keys to the Baxter building." Brent Sienna/PvP.
"One Weekend a month my ass!" Crow- The Beginning of the End.
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