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zombiewhacker
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
1475 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2007 :  7:46:05 PM  Show Profile
Watching Gladiator again last night I still can't get over the scene where Maximus avoided beheading by his Praetorian captors. Before you can say "boo" he's somehow managed to grab a sword away (this while Maximus' wrists are tied behind his back.) Not only that, he grabs the pointy end of the sword rather than the handle and still manages to stab the guard to death without slicing his own fingers off. Then magically Big M's free of the wrist constraits and next thing you know he's making quick work of the remaining guards.

Now this would have been a cool turnabout had the scene made any sense. Unfortunately, I've forwarded and rewinded through the scene numerous times and come up empty each time. If the Fairly Odd-Parents had suddenly blinked a light saber into Russell Crowe's sweaty palms it would have been more credible.

(Said scene, like most of the action in Gladiator, is very poorly edited. Check out the Carthage coloseum scene and explain to me how a bunch of feckless gladiators with shields and spears locked together are somehow able to topple not one but two charging chariots.)

Pass along your faves scenes now... yes, all of them... all the Right Guard + Bic lighter = flamethrower scenes, every Rambo wannabe whoever leaped over X to arrive at Y without his losing his Z... Ken, BTW, has offered tons of examples just from some of his reviews and nuggets. Check them out if you need a memory refresher.

Sardu
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

1126 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2007 :  8:12:03 PM  Show Profile
Well for me the big one is any movie where someone outruns a fireball. There are so many where would one begin! It seems to have started with Long Kiss Goodnight, can anyone think of an earlier example??
But even better is Chain Reaction when Keanu Reeves outruns a nuke explosion on his motorcycle. And, if memory serves, then outruns a fireball on foot at the end of the movie.

"Meeting you makes me want to be a real noodle cook"
--Tampopo
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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

Spain
1590 Posts

Posted - 07/24/2007 :  08:57:29 AM  Show Profile
I hate the chased-by-fireball moments, really. More than the running away what I find specially stupid is that many times the fireball is provoked by what looks like regular hand grenades.
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RossM
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
427 Posts

Posted - 07/24/2007 :  11:30:16 AM  Show Profile
I always love the bomb concussion surfing that our heros do.

Incidently in a Dr. Who show, "The Pirate Planet" written by Douglas Adams, the doctor gets off a walkway while the bad guy crashes into a wall. The Doctor then turns to the audience and tells us the laws of physics he has just broken. It may take you out of the story but its still funny.

rossM
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Gristle McThornbody
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu

Germany
186 Posts

Posted - 07/24/2007 :  12:43:32 PM  Show Profile
Bad guys being launched 20 feet through the air by a 9mm pistol or .223 rifle round. It's simply astounding how much kinetic energy movie bullets have.



"Hi, I'm Bob Evil!"
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Altair IV
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu

Japan
110 Posts

Posted - 07/24/2007 :  3:27:54 PM  Show Profile
The ultimate outrun-the-explosion moment has got to be the climax of Return of the Jedi. I knew it was ridiculous and impossible even when I first saw it in 1983, and I hadn't even had any real physics education at that point.

Predator (1987) also had Arnie diving into the water just as the alien's mini-nuke went off. Ok, maybe not quite an outrunning-the-fireball scene, but it's at least a proto-outrunning, a foreshadow of things to come.
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Mark Hawley
Minister of the Sacraments of Jabootu

Canada
48 Posts

Posted - 07/24/2007 :  3:50:24 PM  Show Profile
So outrunning explosions is impossible but Millenium Falcons and Death Stars aren't?

Edited by - Mark Hawley on 07/24/2007 3:52:15 PM
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Greenhornet
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

1791 Posts

Posted - 07/24/2007 :  4:14:44 PM  Show Profile
In a HIGHLANDER episode they had a Viet Nam War flashback in which a solder stepped on a mine. He flew through the air and landed maybe ten yards away in a pond.
ERROR #1: To fling a man like that would have required enough TNT to blow BOTH his legs off.
The solder's buddy went in and held him above the water while he screamed about loosing his leg.
ERROR #2: The "Injured" solder's legs swung upward as he was carried out of the pond and we CLEARLY see the bottoms of his boots that looked like they had just come out of THE FACTORY!

"The Queen is testing poisons." CLEOPATRA, 1935
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BradH812
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
1294 Posts

Posted - 07/24/2007 :  10:00:54 PM  Show Profile
Actually, I remember in Jedi Han and the Rebels running from the Imperial shield generator station on foot. Then they cut to a wide shot of the station, and it's a HUGE explosion, something that would pulp anyone standing within a half mile of there.

Then we see Han, a few yards away, just a-grinnin. D'oh!
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zombiewhacker
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
1475 Posts

Posted - 07/25/2007 :  11:25:13 AM  Show Profile
I thought Altair IV was referring to Billy Dee zooming out of the exploding Death Star, but BradH812's example is equally apt.

Of course, this is Star Wars we're talking about, and once some old guy starts shooting lightning bolts out of his fingertips the laws of physics are pretty much defunct anyway.
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BradH812
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
1294 Posts

Posted - 07/25/2007 :  7:38:44 PM  Show Profile
Zombie's got a point there abotu guys shooting lightning from his fingahs.

Here's another one. I may have mentioned this on this site sometime back, but what the hey.

In The Fifth Element, there's a scene where the EE-VILL planet is being monitored by Earth ships. They say that one of the temperature readings is in the millions of degrees, and another reading is "5000 degrees below zero". That may not be exactly right, but the upshot is the same. It is physically impossible for anything to have a temperature — or for any thermometer to read a temperature — lower that -459 degrees Fahrenheit or -273 degrees Celsius.

Filmmakers, please. I don't mind you fudging the facts now and then if it makes for a good story. But act like you took high-school science courses, at least!

Edited by - BradH812 on 07/25/2007 7:40:20 PM
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Flangepart
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
2329 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2007 :  4:17:35 PM  Show Profile
[font=Arial] We keep applying LOGIC here people!
When will we ever learn?....
Witness Mythbusters and the great cement truck boom. It was over before the human eye could blink, and the smoke and dust were already spread wide.
Soooo....
People arn't outrunning EXPLOSIONS...just rapid burns, like when dad uses too much lighter fluid on the BBQ grill. [/font=Arial

Marvin the Paranoid Android to Buzz Lightyear "Too infinity and beyond-i've been there, its rubbish!"

"Hoody Hoo, i waste 'em with my cross bow!" Bob Herzog- KODT

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RossM
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
427 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2007 :  6:05:12 PM  Show Profile
actua;;y I have no problem with the hero violating the laws of physics as long as the bad guys and everybody else in the movie's universe has the same ability.

rossM
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