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New Hinda
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

Israel
469 Posts

Posted - 12/14/2007 :  03:04:56 AM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Capt. Nemo
In movies, the characters usually forgo the tension wrench. They just pull out a rake, shove it in to the lock and it opens in a few seconds. In reality, the rake or the pins would probably break. Jamming the lock permantently.


I think someone may have tried that on me, IN REAL LIFE, on two separate occasions. One time I came out of a building, tried to unlock my bike, and the lock fell apart in my hands. Another time, I came home (to my parent's apartment), tried to unlock the door, and found the lock jammed. My father, of blessed memory, was home and let me in. The locksmith came, changed the lock, and told my father, of blessed memory, that someone had jammed the lock trying to pick it.
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zombiewhacker
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
1475 Posts

Posted - 12/14/2007 :  1:41:13 PM  Show Profile
By the same token:

In the movies, all a pickpocket need do is bump into you or (at most) greet you with a hug and they immediately walk off with your wallet, watch, keys, and the latest issue of Sports Illustrated.

In real life, skilled pickpockets work in tandem with other companions. The first will bump into you as a means of distraction, but it's actually the second who tries to make off your wallet. (And if they're really skilled, that second pickpocket will have handed off your wallet to a third conspirator by the time you've even noticed your wallet missing.)

But in the movies? Merely hug an FBI agent hello and presto! You conveniently walk off with his ID and set of keys, setting up the next scene where you bluster your way past the secured checkpoint to access the off-limits computer database or else interrogate/rescue the prisoner they're holding under guard.
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Rabblerouser
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu

USA
122 Posts

Posted - 12/14/2007 :  1:44:47 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by zombiewhacker
Given your objections, you must have been as pleased as punch over the opening to Dances With Wolves: five hundred Confederate soldiers firing at a moving target on horseback and not one of them could hit the broad side of a barn.



The wonders of smoothbores.

Citizen Carrier
I'd bet that was Composition B, much, much safe in battle. Well, for the guy carrying it anyway.
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AnnGora
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

252 Posts

Posted - 12/14/2007 :  3:17:54 PM  Show Profile
I'm working on conventional logic and not a vast knowledge of mechanics here, but it seems to me if you drive your 1967 Thunderbird (a la Thelma and Louise)120 mph off the road, over the rocky desert, through barbed wire, on two wheels, knocking over everything in its path, you are bound to get a few dings and dents along the way. Not to mention lost hubcaps and flat tires. Maybe an overheated radiator...??? Aside from a little dust, Thelma's car looked pretty good flying over the Grand Canyon.

She was bred in old Kentucky, but she's just a crumb up here.
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Capt. Nemo
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630 Posts

Posted - 12/14/2007 :  9:28:42 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by New Hinda


I think someone may have tried that on me, IN REAL LIFE, on two separate occasions. One time I came out of a building, tried to unlock my bike, and the lock fell apart in my hands. Another time, I came home (to my parent's apartment), tried to unlock the door, and found the lock jammed. My father, of blessed memory, was home and let me in. The locksmith came, changed the lock, and told my father, of blessed memory, that someone had jammed the lock trying to pick it.



I guess somebody watched too many movies. *chuckle*

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zombiewhacker
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
1475 Posts

Posted - 12/14/2007 :  9:33:33 PM  Show Profile
Maybe the burglar should have used a credit card. I understand from the movies that always works.
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Sardu
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

1126 Posts

Posted - 12/14/2007 :  10:19:26 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by zombiewhacker

Maybe the burglar should have used a credit card. I understand from the movies that always works.



That one doesn't always work- in fact with new doors it probably rarely works- but it *does* work with the right kind of door. BTW that thing where you drill a hole in the top of a safe and fill it with water and then use explosive to make water pressure blast it open-- that seriously works.



Not that I know anything about that kind of stuff. But I hear about it *lol*

"Meeting you makes me want to be a real noodle cook"
--Tampopo

Edited by - Sardu on 12/14/2007 10:22:25 PM
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Citizen Carrier
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

322 Posts

Posted - 12/15/2007 :  10:24:57 AM  Show Profile
Hanging gallows in westerns.

Gallows must always be shown to be under construction just prior to the "big hangin'". Sounds of sawing and hammering. Fresh, green lumber which probably wasn't cheap to get out past the Mississippi.

Apparently, most towns never had a crime committed that was a hanging offence prior to whatever it was that happened in the movie. Either that or they DID, but they tear down the gallows after each hanging and rebuild them at taxpayer's expense on an "as needed" basis.

And they must not put much stock in the psychological effect it would have on would-be criminals to see a standing, fully functional gallows there in town square everyday as they conduct their business...
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Neville
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Spain
1590 Posts

Posted - 12/15/2007 :  2:28:22 PM  Show Profile
Add to the later that the gallows in WIP must be visible from the sentenced's cell.
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EFH
Minister of the Sacraments of Jabootu

27 Posts

Posted - 12/15/2007 :  2:38:46 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Sardu


That one doesn't always work- in fact with new doors it probably rarely works- but it *does* work with the right kind of door. BTW that thing where you drill a hole in the top of a safe and fill it with water and then use explosive to make water pressure blast it open-- that seriously works.




The safe thing does work. On Mythbusters they used a thermal lance to make the hole, then filled it up with water. Blew the door quite a ways away. Problem was that it also destroyed everything inside of the safe as well.

Unless you getting gold bricks out, this is not a good method.
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Sardu
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

1126 Posts

Posted - 12/15/2007 :  3:57:02 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by EFH

The safe thing does work. On Mythbusters they used a thermal lance to make the hole, then filled it up with water. Blew the door quite a ways away. Problem was that it also destroyed everything inside of the safe as well.

Unless you getting gold bricks out, this is not a good method.



I saw a demo of the technique years ago where they had currency in the safe and it survived with no problems (beyond sogginess). So currency, coins, bars, probably OK. Plastic scepters, not so much *lol* Also, I don't think you have to use nearly as large a charge as the Mythbusters did to get results with many lesser safes. After all, blowing the door 15 feet away isn't the goal, only opening up a good crack. Then you can hack it the rest of the way old-school.

"Meeting you makes me want to be a real noodle cook"
--Tampopo

Edited by - Sardu on 12/15/2007 3:58:17 PM
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New Hinda
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

Israel
469 Posts

Posted - 12/16/2007 :  12:36:34 AM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Gristle McThornbody
Okay, I'll come out and say it - I've never seen Dances With Wolves. I've always thought that unless he was in a sports movie, Kevin Constner couldn't act his way out of a paper bag, so I skipped it.


I saw DANCES WITH WOLVES years ago, when it first came out, and I thought two things. First of all, Louisa May Alcott, more than 100 years ago, created a much more sympathetic, much more believable, portrait of a White man who sympathizes with the Indians, in her character Dan in Jo's Boys. Also, the last 30 minutes of the movie would have been better as ten minutes-U.S. cavalry attack the village and Dances with Wolves dies defending his adopted people. (That's what happens to Dan.)
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New Hinda
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

Israel
469 Posts

Posted - 12/16/2007 :  12:40:36 AM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Capt. Nemo

quote:
Originally posted by New Hinda


I think someone may have tried that on me, IN REAL LIFE, on two separate occasions. One time I came out of a building, tried to unlock my bike, and the lock fell apart in my hands. Another time, I came home (to my parent's apartment), tried to unlock the door, and found the lock jammed. My father, of blessed memory, was home and let me in. The locksmith came, changed the lock, and told my father, of blessed memory, that someone had jammed the lock trying to pick it.



I guess somebody watched too many movies. *chuckle*


Also, in real life, TWICE IN A FEW DAYS, while I was sharing an apartment with another woman in Jerusalem, someone put glue in our front door lock. A lot of our friends suspected it was ultra-religious Jews, who didn't like the way my roommate and I dressed.
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Citizen Carrier
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

322 Posts

Posted - 12/16/2007 :  12:50:00 AM  Show Profile
Um...so how do you dress?

If the hasidic crowd didn't go for it, I'm guessing it is...interesting...
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New Hinda
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

Israel
469 Posts

Posted - 12/16/2007 :  04:09:04 AM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Citizen Carrier

Um...so how do you dress?

If the hasidic crowd didn't go for it, I'm guessing it is...interesting...


Short sleeves and sometimes trousers.
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