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Greenhornet
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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 Posted - 12/16/2007 : 1:00:51 PM
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Originally posted by Citizen Carrier
Um...so how do you dress?
If the hasidic crowd didn't go for it, I'm guessing it is...interesting...
Short sleeves and sometimes trousers.
"SOMETIMES trousers"???!!! No wonder they objected!
Back to the topic, Often in the old west, they hung the condemned in the local BARN, because they have those nice, high rafters.
"The Queen is testing poisons." CLEOPATRA, 1935 |
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EFH
Minister of the Sacraments of Jabootu
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Posted - 12/17/2007 : 3:14:51 PM
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Bullets with the casing attached. After being fired.
You see this some times. The bullet is traveling through the air in slow motion and still has the casing. The last time I saw this was in "Paycheck" some years ago. |
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Citizen Carrier
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
322 Posts |
Posted - 12/17/2007 : 8:07:42 PM
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Short sleeves and sometimes trousers?
You're really pushing the envelope there!
Hmm. That pretty much kills any pre-conceived mental images I was forming.
Guess I'll go take a shower...
Movie cliche. In scenes shot in the evening, road surfaces must always be wetted down as if it had just rained.
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niccolom
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu
Canada
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Posted - 12/17/2007 : 9:59:16 PM
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"Nobody ever seems to go into a potentially dangerous situation with their firearms chambered. This calls for much ratcheting of slides and charging handles .... This blunder is without fail committed by professional contract killers, government agents, and allegedly trained military personnel."
My favourite example of this is towards the end of Beverly Hills Cop when Eddie Murphy has a fight with the head bad guys main henchman. The henchman who has a 12 gauge pump, takes a shot at Murphy and misses. He than walks around until he see's Murphy again, whereupon he jacks another round into the chamber, alerting Murphy, giving him time to jump away. If I remember correctly, this happens about three times. Of course, while the "professional" hitman is walking around he has basically an empty shotgun because there's a spent round in the chamber. |
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niccolom
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu
Canada
118 Posts |
Posted - 12/17/2007 : 10:47:42 PM
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Another favourite of mine is when the bad guys try to hack into a secure computer system. They hook up some electronic doohickey that will cycle throw hundreds of different combinations until they get the right. Now, in my former lifetime (don't ask) I had lots of experience with classified computer systems and most of them would allow you three tries (I remember one system that would allow five tries) at loging- in. Screw-up and you were locked out until the system-administrator logged you back in.
So unless you got very, very lucky the little electronic gizmo would be useless.
A third favourite involves shoot-outs with semi-auto handguns (Browning Hi-Power, 1911 Colt, Glock, etc) and someone points his semi-auto at the other guy, pulls the trigger and all you get is ,"click" - empty pistol. As anyone who has fired a semi-auto knows, when the last round is fired the slide locks back, clearly indicating (to everyone) you're out of ammo!!
Check out he Gary Busey/ Wesley Snipe film Drop Zone which contains both of the above examples. |
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Capt. Nemo
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 12/17/2007 : 11:22:28 PM
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I'm no expert on landmines.
But one equipment gaff that I see a lot is a land mine that has to be "activated" before it explodes.
The cliche is as follows. The target is walking along usually during a tense moment in the film. They all of a sudden hear a "click" noise. The target looks down and sees a) they have stepped on a mine and can't move their foot. or b) a trip wire has been pulled taught and they can't move because it would release the tension on the trip wire. If the foot moves off the mine or the trip wire is released, KABOOM!
If these mines would explode on contact, the bad guys would have saved themselves a lot of headaches.
Where the heck do they get these poorly engineered mines? The Dollar Tree?
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New Hinda
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Israel
469 Posts |
Posted - 12/18/2007 : 08:19:27 AM
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Originally posted by niccolom
Now, in my former lifetime (don't ask) I had lots of experience with classified computer systems and most of them would allow you three tries (I remember one system that would allow five tries) at loging- in. Screw-up and you were locked out until the system-administrator logged you back in.
So unless you got very, very lucky the little electronic gizmo would be useless.
Yahoo! Mail shuts down automatically, for 12 hours, if someone tries to enter 6 or 9 (i forget which, but I forgot my password and it happened to me) times. But there ARE key-counting doohickey, which can be attached to computers, that count every key that is pushed, which can be used to steal passwords. |
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Citizen Carrier
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
322 Posts |
Posted - 12/18/2007 : 4:48:57 PM
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One more gun cliche/inaccuracy.
Anybody who has ever fired a gun without hearing protection, ESPECIALLY indoors, knows that your hearing is pretty much shot to pieces for perhaps a couple of hours. Did that a few times in my less enlightened youth. The worst ever ringing in my ears came from from an old Mauser .32 pistol a friend and I shot outdoors without ear plugs. We figured that since it was such a puny cartridge, we could get by without protection. Woke up the next morning and my ears were still ringing.
In movies, characters would be quite unable to hear anything after firing a gun indoors. But it slows down the pacing of the movie when all Kurt Russell says for the next 15 minutes is "huh?" and "what did you just say?".
The ONLY movie I have ever seen that got this aspect of real life right was the otherwise strange and surrealistic Kafka. Two henchmen try to shoot the main character with a Luger in the clock tower of the castle overlooking the town. It is quite comical, but with each shot the firer yelped loudly and cupped his ears from the sharp report. |
Edited by - Citizen Carrier on 12/18/2007 4:52:58 PM |
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EFH
Minister of the Sacraments of Jabootu
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Posted - 12/18/2007 : 5:56:48 PM
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Don't forget Black Hawk Down when the M-60 gunner went deaf when his friend shot over his head.
Yeah, there is a reason people tend to shout in gun battles. |
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zombiewhacker
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
1475 Posts |
Posted - 12/18/2007 : 6:36:00 PM
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| Also The Fugitive. Tommy Lee Jones shoot an ex-convict holding one of Jones' fellow marshalls hostage. After which his fellow marshall complains, "Thanks, now I'm going to having permanent hearing damage." |
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niccolom
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu
Canada
118 Posts |
Posted - 12/19/2007 : 02:39:44 AM
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Originally posted by New Hinda
[quote]Originally posted by niccolom
Now, in my former lifetime (don't ask) I had lots of experience with classified computer systems and most of them would allow you three tries (I remember one system that would allow five tries) at loging- in. Screw-up and you were locked out until the system-administrator logged you back in.
So unless you got very, very lucky the little electronic gizmo would be useless.
Yahoo! Mail shuts down automatically, for 12 hours, if someone tries to enter 6 or 9 (i forget which, but I forgot my password and it happened to me) times. But there ARE key-counting doohickey, which can be attached to computers, that count every key that is pushed, which can be used to steal passwords.[quote]
True, but those devices take time to collect the password. Plus, they have to be covertly attached to the system. The examples I'm thinking of is when the good/bad guys break into the computer centre and only have a few minutes to hack the system.
Which brings up another problem, finding the info. In Drop Zone its the names of some police informants (IIRC its the Miami PD). Now, imagine the size of the MPD computer system? Trying to find the informants names would take hours (at least!). Even then, the directory would be restricted only to a few users (informants names is not something you want anybody having access to). |
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Flangepart
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 12/19/2007 : 3:52:45 PM
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Yep, guns is LOUD!
I put two mags of hardball .45 through my mom's cousins Colt auto, out doors. Ears rag for a day and a half!
RE : Mines. I recall a book about WW2. A friend of a British soldier stepped on a teller mine with that experiance. Said his friend looked sick, and let the recounter get away, before he tried to leap away from the mine. He diden't make it.
Marvin the Paranoid Android to Buzz Lightyear "Too infinity and beyond-i've been there, its rubbish!"
"Hoody Hoo, i waste 'em with my cross bow!" Bob Herzog- KODT
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Flangepart
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
2329 Posts |
Posted - 12/19/2007 : 3:54:23 PM
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Yep, guns is LOUD!
I put two mags of hardball .45 through my mom's cousins Colt auto, out doors. Ears rag for a day and a half!
RE : Mines. I recall a book about WW2. A friend of a British soldier stepped on a teller mine with that experiance. Said his friend looked sick, and let the recounter get away, before he tried to leap away from the mine. He diden't make it.
Marvin the Paranoid Android to Buzz Lightyear "Too infinity and beyond-i've been there, its rubbish!"
"Hoody Hoo, i waste 'em with my cross bow!" Bob Herzog- KODT
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Citizen Carrier
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
322 Posts |
Posted - 12/19/2007 : 10:37:47 PM
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Assassin's sniper rifle.
Whenever an assassin or sniper must kill the Senator/President/Candidate by making a long shot from a hotel room, etc., the movie must show the killer skillfully and slowly assembling his specially made rifle from an innocuous looking briefcase. It can't merely be a standard, everyday rifle like a Winchester 70 or Remington 700 that has just had the barrel and receiver seperated from the stock.
The barrel has to be seperate and screwed into the receiver by some clever means. The stock must be assembled there. Finally, after putting the rifle together, the shooter takes a scope out and attaches it to the rifle.
While this assembly is slowly and meticulously taking place, it handily gives the hero time to race up the stairs or run down the hallway of the hotel in order to thwart the crime at the last minute.
In real life, guys like Lee Harvey Oswald do their work with fairly common...even cheap rifles that do not come packed in neato cases and require assembly.
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Sardu
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 12/20/2007 : 12:26:10 AM
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Well yeah, but Lee Harvey was a bum. These guys are Super-suave world class assassin guys. They need a sweet rifle. Something flashy, unique and really easy to trace *g*
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