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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

Spain
1590 Posts

Posted - 12/20/2007 :  03:15:55 AM  Show Profile
And still they use to miss their targets.
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RossM
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
427 Posts

Posted - 12/20/2007 :  09:41:05 AM  Show Profile
I love those sniper rifles that take forever to assemble. Even when the assassin has the hero in his cross hairs he always waits, and waits giving the victim ample time to move or duck down.
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zombiewhacker
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
1475 Posts

Posted - 12/20/2007 :  10:12:03 AM  Show Profile
Well, the biggest cheat was the original Manchurian Candidate where Laurence Harvey has the political challenger in his sniper sights when in fact he went to the auditorium with plans to kill Angela Lansbury and James Gregory all along. The only reason we get that line-up-the-crosshair shot was to fool the audience... but Harvey's character doesn't know he's in a movie, right?
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Gristle McThornbody
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu

Germany
186 Posts

Posted - 12/21/2007 :  05:06:50 AM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Citizen Carrier

One more gun cliche/inaccuracy.

Anybody who has ever fired a gun without hearing protection, ESPECIALLY indoors, knows that your hearing is pretty much shot to pieces for perhaps a couple of hours.


That's always been a movie pet peeve of mine. It's especially annoying when, during a lull in the action during a shootout, the good/bad guys whisper their intentions to each other across distances of 10+ feet. You just had a controlled explosion take place in a device you're holding in your hand, and someone is going to whisper instructions to you??? BAHHHH!

"Hi, I'm Bob Evil!"
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Gristle McThornbody
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu

Germany
186 Posts

Posted - 12/21/2007 :  05:09:41 AM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Citizen Carrier

Assassin's sniper rifle.

Whenever an assassin or sniper must kill the Senator/President/Candidate by making a long shot from a hotel room, etc., the movie must show the killer skillfully and slowly assembling his specially made rifle from an innocuous looking briefcase. It can't merely be a standard, everyday rifle like a Winchester 70 or Remington 700 that has just had the barrel and receiver seperated from the stock.

The barrel has to be seperate and screwed into the receiver by some clever means. The stock must be assembled there. Finally, after putting the rifle together, the shooter takes a scope out and attaches it to the rifle.

While this assembly is slowly and meticulously taking place, it handily gives the hero time to race up the stairs or run down the hallway of the hotel in order to thwart the crime at the last minute.

In real life, guys like Lee Harvey Oswald do their work with fairly common...even cheap rifles that do not come packed in neato cases and require assembly.




Don't forget that these "assemble before firing" rifles become magically sighted in once assembled. Zero your sights because you've pretty much changed the barrel on your rifle? Not necessary with Acme's self-sighting sniper rifle...some assembly required.

"Hi, I'm Bob Evil!"
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Citizen Carrier
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

322 Posts

Posted - 12/21/2007 :  08:00:36 AM  Show Profile
I thought about mentioning that, but I didn't want to get too technical!

The classic example of whispering or talking in a normal tone of voice to your partner seconds after you unleashed a fusilade of full automatic mayhem would be the first Die Hard.

"Shoot the glass."

Imagine how ridiculous the movie would've been if all the henchmen, Hans, and McClain spent the entire movie suffering from temporary hearing loss after their first opening shots at the Christmas party.

TAKAGI: "You want money? What kind of terrorists are you?"

HANS: "What?"

TAKAGI" "I asked what kind of terrorists are you?"

HANS: "Nope. Nothing." [Looks over at THEO with puzzled look. THEO shrugs helplessly]

TAKAGI: [under his breath, shaking his head]"Baka terorisuto." [much louder] "I SAID, WHAT KIND OF TERRORISTS ARE YOU?"

HANS: [Impatiently] "Look, just write down what you say on this notepad."

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Greenhornet
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

1791 Posts

Posted - 12/22/2007 :  1:09:22 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Citizen Carrier

Assassin's sniper rifle.

Whenever an assassin or sniper must kill the Senator/President/Candidate by making a long shot from a hotel room, etc., the movie must show the killer skillfully and slowly assembling his specially made rifle from an innocuous looking briefcase. It can't merely be a standard, everyday rifle like a Winchester 70 or Remington 700 that has just had the barrel and receiver seperated from the stock.

The barrel has to be seperate and screwed into the receiver by some clever means. The stock must be assembled there. Finally, after putting the rifle together, the shooter takes a scope out and attaches it to the rifle.

While this assembly is slowly and meticulously taking place, it handily gives the hero time to race up the stairs or run down the hallway of the hotel in order to thwart the crime at the last minute.

In real life, guys like Lee Harvey Oswald do their work with fairly common...even cheap rifles that do not come packed in neato cases and require assembly.



As a matter of history, Ian Flemming said that he and "Mr. Stevenson" used a pair of 30-30 Winchesters hidden in golf bags. They were probably "take-down" rifles that seperated in half.

I want one of those SUPER MAGNIFICATION binoculars (With optional "cut-out") that make something half a mile away look like it's ten yards from your position.

"The Queen is testing poisons." CLEOPATRA, 1935
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Greenhornet
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

1791 Posts

Posted - 12/22/2007 :  1:11:35 PM  Show Profile
Just thought of this:
If the binoculars are on back order, I'll settle for an Auto-Focus Telescope. Just pull it open and look through the eyepiece. No fuss, no adjustment.

"The Queen is testing poisons." CLEOPATRA, 1935
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niccolom
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu

Canada
118 Posts

Posted - 12/24/2007 :  03:05:29 AM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Capt. Nemo

I'm no expert on landmines.

But one equipment gaff that I see a lot is a land mine that has to be "activated" before it explodes.

The cliche is as follows. The target is walking along usually during a tense moment in the film. They all of a sudden hear a "click" noise. The target looks down and sees a) they have stepped on a mine and can't move their foot.

Bouncing or bounding type of anti-personnel mines work in this manner: You step on the mine which is activated.When you remove your foot the mine is propelled upwards to about groin height and then explodes spreading ball-bearings 360 degrees.

or b) a trip wire has been pulled taught and they can't move because it would release the tension on the trip wire.

Forget it. As soon as tension is applied to the tripwire the mine explodes. The only thing that might save you is if there is slack in the tripwire or its attached to a hand grenade. A grenade takes four-five seconds to explode, giving the hero time to jump away.(e.g)


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Flangepart
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
2329 Posts

Posted - 12/24/2007 :  2:32:52 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Gristle McThornbody

quote:
Originally posted by Citizen Carrier

Assassin's sniper rifle.

Whenever an assassin or sniper must kill the Senator/President/Candidate by making a long shot from a hotel room, etc., the movie must show the killer skillfully and slowly assembling his specially made rifle from an innocuous looking briefcase. It can't merely be a standard, everyday rifle like a Winchester 70 or Remington 700 that has just had the barrel and receiver seperated from the stock.

The barrel has to be seperate and screwed into the receiver by some clever means. The stock must be assembled there. Finally, after putting the rifle together, the shooter takes a scope out and attaches it to the rifle.

While this assembly is slowly and meticulously taking place, it handily gives the hero time to race up the stairs or run down the hallway of the hotel in order to thwart the crime at the last minute.

In real life, guys like Lee Harvey Oswald do their work with fairly common...even cheap rifles that do not come packed in neato cases and require assembly.




Don't forget that these "assemble before firing" rifles become magically sighted in once assembled. Zero your sights because you've pretty much changed the barrel on your rifle? Not necessary with Acme's self-sighting sniper rifle...some assembly required.

"Hi, I'm Bob Evil!"


Well, there some scope rigs that allow for that. Primarily for military/Police units, but some civilian.

Course...if the coyote DID order from Acme, he would shoot his self in the ass, and the Roadrunner would 'Meep-meep' his tail feathers off.


Marvin the Paranoid Android to Buzz Lightyear "Too infinity and beyond-i've been there, its rubbish!"

"Hoody Hoo, i waste 'em with my cross bow!" Bob Herzog- KODT

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Greenhornet
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

1791 Posts

Posted - 12/25/2007 :  6:03:07 PM  Show Profile
This seems like a Hollywood invention today, but it was really true back before the 1940s:
Bad Roads that forces the bad guys in a car to slow down while the hero on horseback rides cross-country, jumping ditches and fences alowing him to intercept them.

"The Queen is testing poisons." CLEOPATRA, 1935
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