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R. Dittmar
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Sardu
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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 Posted - 02/24/2008 : 10:50:26 AM
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Please, let it be so.
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Terrahawk
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 02/24/2008 : 7:11:49 PM
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I don't often agree with Mitch Albom, but that was a good analysis.
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TheFoywonder
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 02/25/2008 : 02:47:20 AM
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Originally posted by Terrahawk
I don't often agree with Mitch Albom, but that was a good analysis.
No, it wasn't. That was a festering pile of sanctimonious b.s. from a guy who sounds like a housewife who needs her daily Oprah fix to get through the day. His ludicrous praise for The Bucket List as Oscar worthy pretty much proves he suffers from the Oprah mentality that everyone and everything needs to be uplifting and happy. Nevermind whether or not No Country For Old Men is a great movie, it's violent and didn't make him feel the sort of joy he gets when they move that bus on Extreme Makeover: Home Edition. Reading him dismiss There Will Be Blood as a depressing film about a rich guy who destroys everyone and everything around him makes me wonder what he must think of Citizen Kane. I thought we went to the movies to see a good movie, not just to get our feel good fix of cinematic Prozac. But then again, this is Mitch Albom writing this; schmaltz is all he knows.
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Prankster
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Canada
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Posted - 02/25/2008 : 11:30:37 AM
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It is odd that as the quality of the movies nominated goes up--and most of the movies nominated this year were pretty great for a change--the viewership of the ceremony goes down. Or so it seems.
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R. Dittmar
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Maxtype
Minister of the Sacraments of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 02/25/2008 : 12:35:42 PM
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Looks like the 2008 Oscars weren't a ratings hit:
[url]http://oscars.movies.yahoo.com/news/associatedpress/20080225/1718.html;_ylt=AsNb7RKonbgUeHqSEhIyO9qXVLcF[/url]
EDIT:oops-looks like R.Dittmar beat me to it. |
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TheFoywonder
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 02/25/2008 : 3:40:37 PM
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Not surprised that the Oscar ratings were so low given that the program itself has become a boring, joyless slog to sit through. Just think about last year when Sasha Baron Cohen refused to appear because the Oscar producers wouldn't allow him to go on in character as Borat. Honestly, can anyone name the last time they saw an Oscar telecast that they could describe as a genuinely entertaining show? Yet critics focus on how the movies nominated weren't box office hits. Hey, the year Titanic won the Oscars did huge ratings. It also ended up being one of the longest, dullest Oscar broadcasts in the show's history. The Oscars are in dire need of a facelife and that's never going to happen until Gil Cates gets shown the door.
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Maxtype
Minister of the Sacraments of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 02/25/2008 : 4:21:02 PM
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Foywonder,you have a point.
The most vivid memory I have of enjoying the Oscars was when Jack Palance did his one-armed push-ups.When was that? 1997?
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zombiewhacker
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 02/25/2008 : 4:51:42 PM
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Originally posted by TheFoywonder
Hey, the year Titanic won the Oscars did huge ratings. It also ended up being one of the longest, dullest Oscar broadcasts in the show's history.
I disagree. I taped the '98 Oscars and I still watch it now and then. Billy Crystal was great. There were many highlights (Stanley Donen, the musical numbers, the Oscar winners reunion.) Even the acceptance speeches were good.
Yes, it was overlong, but so what else is new? |
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zombiewhacker
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 02/25/2008 : 5:55:47 PM
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As for why this year's telecast was the lowest rated, the obvious reason is the lack of box office favorites. Back in 1998, the box office totals for the five best picture nominees averaged $199M. The average gross from this year's five nominees: $65M.
(Even if you discount Titanic, 1998's big winner, the average gross for the remaining nominated films was $99M.)
The other salient factor: fewer big names nominated in the acting categories. This year the only real bonafide major stars were Johnny Depp and George Clooney. In 1998, the nominated actors included Jack Nicholson, Matt Damon, Robin Williams, Anthony Hopkins, not to mention Burt Reynolds. Understandably, for the average TV viewer, there's more interest in seeing Nicholson or Williams make an acceptance speech versus Day-Lewis or Bardem. (Sorry, but that's the way it is.)
One can only imagine the pandemonium in 1997 if Leonard Di Caprio had been nominated. |
Edited by - zombiewhacker on 02/26/2008 01:15:47 AM |
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TheFoywonder
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 02/25/2008 : 10:26:45 PM
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I have no earthly idea why you felt the need to go to that much trouble breaking down statistics when it still fails to answer the most pertinent question to this year's nominees: did any of the films and actors nominated this year not deserve their accolades just because they're not A-list ratings grabbers or because their films were dark and not cinematic happy pills?
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zombiewhacker
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 02/26/2008 : 12:47:41 AM
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I was responding to the point that this was the lowest rated Oscar cast ever. My theory for the downturn was that none of the movies (except for Juno) were box office hits and very few popular actors were nominated.
But I admit I did ramble on a bit and I've edited my earlier post accordingly. |
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Terrahawk
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 02/26/2008 : 07:24:52 AM
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Zombiewhacker, I liked your original post. I thought it broke things down nicely. I think "Juno" only got the traffic it did because there was a campaign to say that the film was pro-life.
Foy, relax a little. I don't think anyone has seriously challenged the competence of the movies. The concern is about the trend over the past 7-10 years for Hollywood and entertainment in general to only equate good film making with the dark, the brooding, the dysfunctional, and at best the amoral. This year seems to have hit the pinnacle of that trend with every film pretty much falling in that category.
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RossM
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 02/26/2008 : 08:24:45 AM
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Ericb
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 02/26/2008 : 08:28:20 AM
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And the fashion part of the show is over before the award ceremony even begins.
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