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hbrennan
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Philippines
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 Posted - 11/25/2008 : 9:24:38 PM
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In the topic "Salem's Lot vs Salem's Lot" there were examples given of highly inferior remakes\adaptations of some pretty good films. What about the other side of the coin? I suspect that answers would be somewhat more challenging.
My nominees? Frank Langella's "Dracula" (and a few other versions) vs Lugosi's and John Carpenter's "The Thing" (1982) vs the 1951 version.
"...yet it hadn't destroyed his brain."
re: Charles "The Butcher" Benton (1956)
http://www.henrybrennan.com/
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Edited by - hbrennan on 11/26/2008 9:51:43 PM
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RossM
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 11/25/2008 : 11:09:20 PM
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John Houston's remake of The Maltese Falcon is far superior to either of its two predecessors.
The 1930 Wizard Of Oz is better than the silent version. |
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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Spain
1590 Posts |
Posted - 11/26/2008 : 02:53:46 AM
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| I haven't seen the original Ocean's eleven, but when the Steven Soderbergh remake was released all critics said it was far superior. |
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nshumate
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
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Posted - 11/26/2008 : 05:59:20 AM
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Of the movies cited, though, only Ocean's 11 is what we normally think of as a remake -- i.e., a new movie spawned directly from the first. The other examples given -- Salem's Lot, Dracula, The Thing, The Maltese Falcon, The Wizard of Oz -- aren't a remake of the earlier movie, but a new screen adaptation of the pre-existing property which the earlier movie also adapted.
Nathan Shumate
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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Spain
1590 Posts |
Posted - 11/26/2008 : 08:38:21 AM
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| What about the Tobe Hooper remake of The toolbox murders? |
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BT
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 11/26/2008 : 10:29:21 AM
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Originally posted by nshumate
Of the movies cited, though, only Ocean's 11 is what we normally think of as a remake -- i.e., a new movie spawned directly from the first. The other examples given -- Salem's Lot, Dracula, The Thing, The Maltese Falcon, The Wizard of Oz -- aren't a remake of the earlier movie, but a new screen adaptation of the pre-existing property which the earlier movie also adapted.
Nathan Shumate
http://www.coldfusionvideo.com
So I'm guessing Jackson's "Lord of the Rings" vs Bakshi's doesn't count?
Here is a bunch of maybes:
I haven't seen "Infernal Affairs", but "The Departed" was pretty freaking good.
Does Titanic count as a remake? I suppose it stands on it's own. I'm sure I'll catch hell for saying it, but I still think it's a pretty exciting movie.
I'll also risk sacrilege by saying I liked Blow Out more than Blow Up.
The Fly was much better than The Fly.
Little shop of Horrors
The Pink Panther.
Ok, I was kidding about the last one. |
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Nlneff
Diocesan Ecclesiarch of the Sacred Order of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 11/26/2008 : 12:27:42 PM
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Battlestar Galatica.
Ben Hur.
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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Spain
1590 Posts |
Posted - 11/26/2008 : 2:15:35 PM
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| I'd say Infernal affairs is far better than The departed, but that's debatable. I prefer it because the plot moves faster, and because I feel the Michael Mann-ish visuals are more adecuate to the story than Scorsese's bombastic approach. |
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Joliet Jake Blues
Minister of the Sacraments of Jabootu
Australia
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Posted - 11/26/2008 : 4:00:49 PM
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I'm not so sure about the last couple seasons of Battlestar, myself. It's lost a bit of punch.
"Age and guile beat youth, innocence and a bad haircut" - P.J. O'Rourke |
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BradH812
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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Posted - 11/26/2008 : 8:06:19 PM
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I know I'll get some disagreement here, but I prefer the remake of Insomnia to the original.
Of course, The Maltese Falcon that we all know (you know, the one with Bogie) was at least the third filming of that novel.
If memory serves, The Wizard of Oz was first made around 1920. |
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hbrennan
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Philippines
1455 Posts |
Posted - 11/26/2008 : 9:49:56 PM
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Thanks for that clarification nshumate. I've amended the topic title to be more all inclusive.
"...yet it hadn't destroyed his brain."
re: Charles "The Butcher" Benton (1956)
http://www.henrybrennan.com/
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New Hinda
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Israel
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Posted - 11/28/2008 : 02:08:18 AM
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Originally posted by hbrennan
My nominees? Frank Langella's "Dracula" (and a few other versions) vs Lugosi's and John Carpenter's "The Thing" (1982) vs the 1951 version.
I prefer the original THE THING. |
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New Hinda
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Israel
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Posted - 11/28/2008 : 02:09:21 AM
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Originally posted by nshumate
Of the movies cited, though, only Ocean's 11 is what we normally think of as a remake -- i.e., a new movie spawned directly from the first. The other examples given -- Salem's Lot, Dracula, The Thing, The Maltese Falcon, The Wizard of Oz -- aren't a remake of the earlier movie, but a new screen adaptation of the pre-existing property which the earlier movie also adapted.
I don't understand the difference. |
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New Hinda
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Israel
469 Posts |
Posted - 11/28/2008 : 02:18:02 AM
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Originally posted by BradH812
If memory serves, The Wizard of Oz was first made around 1920.
According to the IMDB, there were a number of Oz films, some with screenplays by Baum himself, going back to 1908. |
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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Spain
1590 Posts |
Posted - 11/28/2008 : 03:30:12 AM
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Originally posted by New Hinda
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Originally posted by nshumate
Of the movies cited, though, only Ocean's 11 is what we normally think of as a remake -- i.e., a new movie spawned directly from the first. The other examples given -- Salem's Lot, Dracula, The Thing, The Maltese Falcon, The Wizard of Oz -- aren't a remake of the earlier movie, but a new screen adaptation of the pre-existing property which the earlier movie also adapted.
I don't understand the difference.
His point is that if both films are based on the same book / play, the second one shouldn't be considered a remake, but a new adaptation. I found that debatable, but it does make this thread more interesting, so I won't object. |
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RossM
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
427 Posts |
Posted - 12/04/2008 : 11:28:36 AM
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| I just thought of a remake that is substantially better than the original. I think that the 1984 version of "1984" is far better than the 1956 version with Michael Redgrave. The Redgrave version is first rate but the remake, which features Richard Burton in a small but very effective role, is far grimmer and scarier and pointed and more believable on its own terms. |
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