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Pip
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
333 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2007 :  6:13:21 PM  Show Profile  Visit Pip's Homepage
Do I have firstsies on this? Cool! I immediately thought of this site when I saw this headline:

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Steven Seagal, whose action movies once were major box-office attractions, believes false allegations by FBI agents ruined his career, the Los Angeles Times reported on Friday.

The comments in the Times are the first Seagal has made publicly about an investigation begun some five years ago by the FBI into accusations he intimidated a reporter and had ties to organized crime.

The Times said Seagal is demanding an apology from the FBI. A spokesman for the actor was not immediately available on Friday.

"False FBI accusations fueled thousands of articles saying that I terrorize journalists and associate with the Mafia," Seagal told the newspaper. "These kinds of inflammatory allegations scare studio heads and independent producers -- and kill careers."

Seagal, 56, was once a major star of action movies such as 1992's "Under Siege," which earned $156 million at worldwide box offices, but now he makes straight-to-DVD releases such as "Flight of Fury and "Attack Force."

The FBI investigation stemmed from Seagal's ties to former private detective Anthony Pellicano, who once was employed by many Hollywood stars, directors and producers, but is now in federal prison awaiting trial on wire-tapping and other charges.

The Pellicano investigation dates to 2002 when a free-lance reporter for the Los Angeles Times found a dead fish, a red rose and a note saying "Stop!" on her car. At the time, the reporter was researching Seagal and a former business partner.

Seagal told the Times that he and Pellicano had not been on speaking terms since the 1990s and the Times' story said his lawyers told FBI agents that by 2002, Seagal and Pellicano had become rivals in a bitter legal dispute.

The actor said in October 2004, an FBI official told him that federal agents knew he had nothing to do with the Pellicano investigation. Still, Seagal claims they have not publicly exonerated him.

An FBI spokeswoman declined to comment "because of the ongoing nature of the investigation" and referred calls to the U.S. Attorney's Office in Los Angeles. A spokesman for the U.S. Attorney was not immediately available to comment.


"These five fingers: individually they're nothing, but when I curl them together like this into a single unit, they form a weapon that is terrible to behold!" - Lucy Van Pelt

BradH812
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
1294 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2007 :  6:16:20 PM  Show Profile
Ah. His career going on a downward spiral is all the fault of dat bad ol' gubmint. Yep, the effa-bee-eye is persecutin' him.

Two words come to mind. Tom. Laughlin.

Hell, I ain't complainin'. We need something to laugh at, right?
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GalahadPC
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
380 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2007 :  7:30:25 PM  Show Profile
So... is somebody keeping him from seeing reviews of his movies, or is he really in such an insane level of denial?

Edited by - GalahadPC on 08/17/2007 7:30:59 PM
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zombiewhacker
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
1475 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2007 :  8:00:51 PM  Show Profile
If Seagal got fingered by the feds, would that make Kelly Lebrock the Woman in Red?
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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

Spain
1590 Posts

Posted - 08/18/2007 :  06:54:12 AM  Show Profile
I'd say that what really killed his career were true allegations by film critics. That and the fact that even people who rent direct-to-DVD actioners expect some level of competence.
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zombiewhacker
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
1475 Posts

Posted - 08/18/2007 :  8:21:42 PM  Show Profile
There's a great comment thread about this very same subject over at Captain's Quarter's blog.

[url]http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/011597.php#comments[/url]

I only mention this because one of the commenters posts two links to Ken's reviews of On Deadly Ground and The Patriot. Woo-hoo! Jabootubs away!
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hbrennan
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

Philippines
1455 Posts

Posted - 08/19/2007 :  08:42:11 AM  Show Profile  Visit hbrennan's Homepage
He's just getting desperate for publicity.

"...yet it hadn't destroyed his brain."
re: Charles "The Butcher" Benton (1956)

http://www.henrybrennan.com/
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hbrennan
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

Philippines
1455 Posts

Posted - 08/19/2007 :  09:00:55 AM  Show Profile  Visit hbrennan's Homepage
Also - let's NOT forget Tom Laughlin http://www.billyjack.com/ - hey, I'm a member - it's a never ending source of entertainment. The only sad thing is that some of his points are quite valid - and this is who we have representing those points.
But see video #7 http://www.billyjack.com/index.php?menuID=Page&pid=110

"...yet it hadn't destroyed his brain."
re: Charles "The Butcher" Benton (1956)

http://www.henrybrennan.com

Edited by - hbrennan on 08/19/2007 09:31:06 AM
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Sardu
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

1126 Posts

Posted - 08/19/2007 :  10:59:21 AM  Show Profile
Why doesn't Smeagol- whoops, Seagal- just sue God for creating reality? That's where his problems really stem from.

"Meeting you makes me want to be a real noodle cook"
--Tampopo
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nshumate
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

464 Posts

Posted - 08/20/2007 :  06:01:45 AM  Show Profile  Visit nshumate's Homepage
What killed his career was a combination of a sense of entitled preachiness in his storylines, and his personal devotion to Twinkies.

Nathan Shumate
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Mark Hawley
Minister of the Sacraments of Jabootu

Canada
48 Posts

Posted - 08/20/2007 :  9:25:29 PM  Show Profile
Under Siege killed his career.

It was his first real blockbuster and created an expectation that every subesequent film he did failed to live up to.

It also gave him the clout to make "On Deadly Ground".
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GalahadPC
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
380 Posts

Posted - 08/21/2007 :  08:58:34 AM  Show Profile
Seagal might conceivably still have a career if he wasn't so intent on pushing out "Steven Seagal" movies long after his fifteen minutes were up, and let someone else do the creative work for a change. I remember reading he actually put in a decent performance in Executive Decision...

But really, has anybody other than Jackie Chan been successful for long at helming his own action movies? And even he's willing to work for anyone else who has an idea that he happens to like.

(BTW, if I could ever nominate a Seagal movie for Ken to hit, I'd choose 2001's DTV "Ticker," just because of a quote from the box: "When the countdown reaches zero, you're dead."

Yes... yes, that's how bombs usually work...)
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Sardu
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

1126 Posts

Posted - 08/21/2007 :  09:14:53 AM  Show Profile
Of course his performance in Executive Decision was good... it consisted of him

SPOILERS!! SPOILERS!! SPOILERS!! SPOILERS!! SPOILERS!! SPOILERS!! SPOILERS!! SPOILERS!! SPOILERS!! SPOILERS!! SPOILERS!! SPOILERS!! SPOILERS!! SPOILERS!! SPOILERS!! SPOILERS!!


...assuming room temperature in the first reel and removing himself from the remainder of the film. I could almost forgive the man everything for that move if he hadn't proceed to remove all hint of good karma generated by that film with all his subsequent ego driven bombs...


BTW this forum really needs spoiler tags.

"Meeting you makes me want to be a real noodle cook"
--Tampopo
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zombiewhacker
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
1475 Posts

Posted - 08/21/2007 :  10:51:07 AM  Show Profile
Didn't Seagal also have a funny cameo in a Billy Crystal's My Giant where he basically spoofed his own image? Another avenue unexplored... having a sense of humor about himself.
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Flangepart
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

USA
2329 Posts

Posted - 08/21/2007 :  11:26:13 AM  Show Profile
Ah, you mean Shatner Mode!

Marvin the Paranoid Android to Buzz Lightyear "Too infinity and beyond-i've been there, its rubbish!"

"Hoody Hoo, i waste 'em with my cross bow!" Bob Herzog- KODT

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Sardu
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

1126 Posts

Posted - 08/21/2007 :  12:01:24 PM  Show Profile
If Seagal could embrace full on Shatner Mode his career would resuscitate over night. But it might actually be too late...

Was it Will Sasso on Mad TV that does the great Seagal impression, with the neck snapping? I love that *g*

"Meeting you makes me want to be a real noodle cook"
--Tampopo
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