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Capt. Nemo
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
    
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Posted - 01/12/2008 : 7:55:57 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Neville
I appreciate it, really, but that's like telling the moths to stay away from flames.
Just remember what happens to those moths.
They get burnt.
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RossM
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
    
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Posted - 01/12/2008 : 9:37:10 PM
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I have to agree with Blazing Saddles. Obvious jokes done with sledgehammer force. This kind of thing had been done many times before with much subtler and far funnier wit. For example The Paleface and The Son Of Paleface with Bob Hope, Support Your Local Sheriff and Support Your Local Gunfighter with James Garner. They also followed up with the outstanding Skin Game which both skewers western cliches, tells an exciting story, and makes serious political points all at the same time without being preachy. Going back further there is the hilarious Ruggles of Red gap which leaves no western movie cliche standing. Bob Hope redid Ruggles with the equally funny Fancy Pants which also features a radiant Lucile Ball. Thus To me Blazing Saddles was neither origional nor very funny.
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Sardu
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Posted - 01/12/2008 : 11:48:29 PM
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You kinda have to admit though, both Blazing Saddles and Young Frankenstein come off like Citizen Kane compared to just about everything Brooks did afterward. The only exception for me being bits of History Of Civilization Pt. 1. And yes, I'm taking High Anxiety into account. Never liked it. To give BS (haw haw, BS!)some credit, it's hard for anyone who wasn't around at the time to understand just how truly audacious it was. That was pretty brave back in the day (hell, you couldn't make it at ALL now!). And it does have some really funny moments sandwiched in between the cringe-inducing ones. YF is much better overall I think.
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Sardu
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
    
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Posted - 01/12/2008 : 11:49:26 PM
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OH BTW, I love the Sheriff movies with Garner. Those are great.
"Meeting you makes me want to be a real noodle cook" --Tampopo |
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Greenhornet
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
    
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Posted - 01/13/2008 : 08:30:23 AM
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I'll add the hippie era movies that Ken likes to blast in his reviews (Maybe he feels it's his duty to america). You know the type: they are the ones we saw in our youth where we were supposed to shout "Right on, man! Stick it to the establishment! But now that we are grown up, we can see just how destructive and hatefull the "heros" were.
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Sardu
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Posted - 01/13/2008 : 11:12:36 AM
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One that certainly falls into that category for me is Silent Running. When I was 12 and saw it on TV it really affected me. Now in hindsight there is just SO much wrong with that movie it hurts my brain. In fact, I seriously want to attempt a recap of it.
"Meeting you makes me want to be a real noodle cook" --Tampopo |
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Food
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
    
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Posted - 01/13/2008 : 1:44:11 PM
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| The Star Wars trigoly, especially the entire Tatooine act of ...Jedi. |
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BradH812
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Posted - 01/13/2008 : 4:20:33 PM
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Food's recap of Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome leads me to suspect that while I would still enjoy that movie today (especially seein' Savannah again), I wouldn't have near as high an opinion of it as I did in '86.
Sardu, go ahead and give your write-up on SR if you have the time. I'd be interested in reading it. |
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Sardu
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
    
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Posted - 01/13/2008 : 4:51:34 PM
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I'm going to try it. It may take a while as I don't have tons of time in my life right now but I'll give it a shot over the coming week.
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zombiewhacker
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
    
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Posted - 01/13/2008 : 5:30:27 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Greenhornet
I'll add the hippie era movies that Ken likes to blast in his reviews.
I think I read somewhere that even Peter Fonda, with hindsight, was a little disenchanted with Easy Rider. |
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andy80
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Posted - 01/13/2008 : 6:48:32 PM
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Well Caddyshack is starting to show its age but it has four great comics in it so I still enjoy it every once in awhile. It helps if you're a golfer too.
I just watched the original Halloween a few months ago(by myself, in the dark) and was just bored out of my mind for some reason.
My two favorite movies when I was about seven were Jaws 3 and Howard the Duck. I guess theres no need to say anything more.
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RossM
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Posted - 01/13/2008 : 7:50:22 PM
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Seeing a movie in a theater as a child and seeing on tv as an adult are two different experiences and not I feel a fair comparison. I loved those Disney movies like Merlon Jones when I was around 6 and saw them in a theater. Now I see how ghastly awful they are. But I am not the target for them.
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Ericb
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
    
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Posted - 01/14/2008 : 07:21:27 AM
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I'll second [b]Star Wars[/b.I loved it when I was 13 but when I saw it again as an adult I found the performances flat and the dialogue awful.
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thewarden
Minister of the Sacraments of Jabootu
 
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Posted - 01/14/2008 : 08:26:21 AM
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Take the Money and Run... Unwatchable now, even though I had fond memories. Same with Stir Crazy.
I disagree about Caddyshack, tho. I don't think it was ever rip-roaring funny. I watched it recently and it was much as I remembered it -- a cute way to waste 90 mins. Same with Fast Times. Part of the reason to reunite the cast is not because the movie was so great, but because of the sheer number of careers it helped launch.
And I disagree vehemently about Alien. I think Alien holds up great. Tight little horror movie.
I find a lot of the late-1960s, early 1970s action movies have aged poorly. They are just too slowly paced -- Bullitt, even French Connection... They now have to rely more on characters and plot, whereas in the past they go away on some of their trademark action scenes.
And some stuff is just a victim to changing norms. Arthur is hard to watch. 48 Hrs, which I love, is something I would never show in public -- it is just so over-the-top with racist language.
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R. Dittmar
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
    
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Posted - 01/14/2008 : 09:25:07 AM
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Take the Money and Run... Unwatchable now, even though I had fond memories.
Woody Allen's an interesting case here. He's actually the filmmaker who was never as great as people remember. The last time I saw them, I thought that Sleeper and Love and Death still held up reasonably well. Annie Hall is kind of a middling case. I’d argue that it still holds up fairly well, but the telltale signs of the hubris that lead to Allen’s downfall are all there. Since then, however, Allen hasn’t made one single film worth watching. Not only that but given Allen’s real life proclivities, Manhattan is just downright creepy. And Husbands and Wives is the most unpleasant movie that I’ve ever seen. And in saying this, let me also say that I was a tremendous fan of his when I was a kid. Not only did I go see all his films but I owned all his books and his stand-up comedy albums. |
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