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New Hinda
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

Israel
469 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2008 :  01:59:30 AM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by thewarden

On topic as well:

Two family movies: The Sound of Music and Mary Poppins.


I love THE SOUND OF MUSIC. I saw it, on stage, translated into Hebrew, and I have the Hebrew cassette tape.
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New Hinda
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

Israel
469 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2008 :  02:09:05 AM  Show Profile
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Originally posted by BradH812
I'm sure everyone here has seen a few movies where they could point to a scene and say "THAT's what this movie should've been."


MY COUSIN VINNIE should have been as good as the scene where Vinnie puts Lisa on the stand and Lisa turns out to be a car expert. The rest of the movie was unbearable-one run-into-the-ground-not-all-that-funny-to-begin-with joke after another.
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BradH812
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USA
1294 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2008 :  05:37:48 AM  Show Profile
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Originally posted by New Hinda

quote:
Originally posted by R. Dittmar
I’m thinking of a TV show though – “All in the Family”. I used to love the show as a kid. In fact, since this was long before video, I used to use a tape recorder to make cassettes of the soundtracks and play them over and over. When I watch it now, however, I’m aware of something extremely off-putting that just sailed over my head at the time. Simply put, the entire show is structured around ridiculing and vilifying Archie. We are clearly supposed to believe that he is absolutely wrong about everything and every other character in the show – if not the world - is his moral superior.


And Archie worked for a living and supported the whole family. I read on the IMDB that Carroll O'Connor was a diabetic. Does anyone know if he had diabetes while he was playing Archie?



The problem with All in the Family was that the writers stacked the deck every time you heard Archie and (usually) Mike argue. Archie was made to look like a buffoon, and the writers had to portray him that way. If he'd ever shown the first bit of reasoning (even if flawed) or rationality toward Mike, Mike would have been shown up for what he was: a preachy, self-righteous, arrogant snot..
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New Hinda
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

Israel
469 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2008 :  06:11:07 AM  Show Profile
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Originally posted by BradH812
If he'd ever shown the first bit of reasoning (even if flawed) or rationality toward Mike, Mike would have been shown up for what he was: a preachy, self-righteous, arrogant snot..


I remember, even after all these decades, at least one episode in which Mike is shown up as a preachy, self-righteous, arrogant snot. Remember the episode where the two Blacks burgle the Bunker house? The only person in the whole family who sees the burglars as human beings is Edith, and that's why the burglars leave her her teapot and tiny nest egg.
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New Hinda
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Israel
469 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2008 :  06:16:26 AM  Show Profile
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Originally posted by RossM

Misstating the pythagorean theorem in the Wizard of Oz is quite deliberate and an inside joke. Watch he seen more carefully next time.


There's a bit of an in-joke when the wizard gives the scarecrow his brains in the book, too. He fills the burlap bag, the scarecrow's head, with a mixture of bran and pins, and says "I have given you a lot of bran-new brains."
In the Broadway play, The Wiz, the Black version, the one where Stephanie Mills played Dorothy, the wizard held up a cereal box,"All Bran," and said "Look. All Brain."

Edited by - New Hinda on 01/16/2008 06:18:11 AM
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hk6909
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651 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2008 :  09:21:06 AM  Show Profile
I feel like I might as well paint a bullseye on myself, but now that I'm grown I can't for the life of me see what I liked about The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai.

When a stranger calls, make friends with him.
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zombiewhacker
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USA
1475 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2008 :  11:07:18 AM  Show Profile
I never liked Buckaroo Banzai. What took you so long?
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Sardu
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1126 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2008 :  3:25:54 PM  Show Profile
Still love Buckaroo Banzai. Y'all are just wrong on that one *g*

"Meeting you makes me want to be a real noodle cook"
--Tampopo
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Neville
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Spain
1590 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2008 :  10:38:27 PM  Show Profile
To be fair, I used to love Buckaroo Banzai myself, but last time I watched it I found a boring mess.
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RossM
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USA
427 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2008 :  11:55:10 PM  Show Profile
Buckeroo Banzai put me to sleep the first time I tried to watch it and put me to sleep the most recent time I tried to watch it. I have had the same reaction to the third Matrix movie. Thus neither really belongs on this list as I thought that both were garbage the first time I watched them.

Has anyone changed his mind on The English Patient? That movie also always puts me to sleep.

rossM
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zombiewhacker
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USA
1475 Posts

Posted - 01/17/2008 :  01:31:43 AM  Show Profile
How about Close Encounters of the Third Kind? The FX hold up better than expected, considering, but the characters are cardboard, the dialogue worse, scenes depicting Richard Dreyfuss' growing obsession with the aliens mostly come across as ludicrous (just pass the mashed potatoes already, jeez), and Spielberg's direction stinks to the heavens.

"Okay, everybody, listen up, people listen up, when I yell action, everyone stare blankly at the camera. Ready? ACTION! Everyone stare at the camera. Keep staring at your mark. Camera guy, push in real tight on their glazed expressions. Tighter. Okay, annnnnnnnnnd CUT! That's beautiful. Thank you, people. (The crew applauds.) Print it!"

Also the notion of "noble" aliens who kidnap people away from their families for forty years then only return their captives after the latter's loved ones are mostly dead and their lives have been destroyed... well, y'know.

Edited by - zombiewhacker on 01/17/2008 01:37:10 AM
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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu

Spain
1590 Posts

Posted - 01/17/2008 :  04:17:31 AM  Show Profile
Ditto on Close encounters. I saw it recently after many, many years, and found it quite tiresome, specially the bits concerning Richard Dreyfuss' mental help. For some reason I though Spielberg wanted us to be on his side, yet watching him I was begging hi wife for a divorce, so I could be spared more embarrasing scenes. The climax in the mountain was also way too long.

As for The English patient, I could hate it, but despite its many occassions of silliness it has never bored me. I even felt sorry for Minghella once I read the novel in which it is based, it's completely unfilmable. He actually did his best, but he got the whole tone wrong.
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Ericb
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USA
648 Posts

Posted - 01/17/2008 :  06:05:20 AM  Show Profile
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Also the notion of "noble" aliens who kidnap people away from their families for forty years then only return their captives after the latter's loved ones are mostly dead and their lives have been destroyed... well, y'know



Also, what exactly was the point of kidnapping these people only to return them 40 years later and exchange them for human volunteers?

"I reserve the right to look as well as be boring." - Robert Fripp
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zombiewhacker
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USA
1475 Posts

Posted - 01/17/2008 :  11:07:11 AM  Show Profile
Swap meet?
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Terrahawk
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USA
644 Posts

Posted - 01/17/2008 :  1:42:37 PM  Show Profile
Maybe volunteers wouldn't taste as bad.

I was never really impressed with "Close Encounters." I never knew why until someone pointed out the whole Dreyfuss family dynamic when I was much older. For some reason it slipped by me for years.

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