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Flangepart
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
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 Posted - 08/07/2007 : 4:45:24 PM
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It occured to me,for no particular reason, that American cartoon shows have only,in the last few years...say,about Simpsons times, allowed characters to kick the proverbial bucket.
My question...which character officaly hold that distinction?
Sure, i remember ROBOTECH doing it. But that was japanese, so concitering their mortality rates,i'd not include 'em.
Sooooo....
Who died first?
Marvin the Paranoid Android to Buzz Lightyear "Too infinity and beyond-i've been there, its rubbish!"
"Hoody Hoo, i waste 'em with my cross bow!" Bob Herzog- KODT
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Ericb
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
648 Posts |
Posted - 08/07/2007 : 5:09:24 PM
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Maude Flanders (Simpsons)
"I reserve the right to look as well as be boring." - Robert Fripp |
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Sardu
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
1126 Posts |
Posted - 08/07/2007 : 7:05:53 PM
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Even more mysterious than death in the cartoon world- which characters AGE?? I can't think of a one- American at any rate.
"Meeting you makes me want to be a real noodle cook"
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Danitsu
Minister of the Sacraments of Jabootu
40 Posts |
Posted - 08/07/2007 : 10:32:30 PM
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I'd want to say Optimus Prime in the Transformers Movie.
Well, in the much Jabootued Captain Planet in a drug awareness episode, Linka's cousin Od'ed.
"If you get served and serve them back...Then IT'S ON!!!" |
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andy80
Diocesan Ecclesiarch of the Sacred Order of Jabootu
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Posted - 08/09/2007 : 08:16:53 AM
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| The South Park boys have aged a year in the 9 or so seasons the shows been on. |
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Sardu
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
1126 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2007 : 12:13:10 PM
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Originally posted by andy80
The South Park boys have aged a year in the 9 or so seasons the shows been on.
Wow, you're right! It's a slow process but at least there's some concept of time there. Although current events on the show appear to move in a fashion concurrent with the real world, so there's still something pretty weird going on. *g*
"Meeting you makes me want to be a real noodle cook"
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Ericb
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
648 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2007 : 2:15:24 PM
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Wow, you're right! It's a slow process but at least there's some concept of time there. Although current events on the show appear to move in a fashion concurrent with the real world, so there's still something pretty weird going on
Perhaps it's a temporal version of the Tardis.
"I reserve the right to look as well as be boring." - Robert Fripp |
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Greenhornet
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
1791 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2007 : 3:22:45 PM
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Snow White's step-mother Queen fell off a cliff and eaten(?) by vultures in 1937.
Bambi's mom got blown away in 1942.
It was origonaly planned to show two hunters burned to death in this movie, but Walt decided against it when one of the cartoonists asked how he wanted them; "Medium or well-done?".
"The Queen is testing poisons." CLEOPATRA, 1935 |
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Altair IV
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu
Japan
110 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2007 : 11:01:38 PM
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I wouldn't doubt you could even find some cartoon deaths in the early black& white stuff if you looked hard enough. But I think the main thing is that even then, deaths in animation were nearly always either off-screen, or completely comical in nature, like the time Daffy Duck blew himself up in order to top Bugs Bunny onstage.
The 70's were particularly egregious. There was almost NO serious violence in animation in those days. The only exceptions I can think of were the adult-oriented movies of Ralph Bakshi and the like.
I remember one time, maybe 1993 or so, before I came to Japan, when I was flipping through the cable channels and came across the famous Rabbit Season, Duck Season Bugs Bunny episode. Only, something was wrong. Someone had cut out every instance where Elmer Fudd actually fired his rifle. The whole episode had been turned into a series of confusing episodes where Daffy suddenly and for no apparent reason became all burnt-black and smoldering. It was truly pathetic.
That's why Robotech was so special in my mind. It was real. It was different. It really did take the Anime invasion to bring a more realistic vein to mainstream animation. While America was stuck in the perception that animation was for children, the Japanese were using it as a real storytelling medium. It wasn't just the violence, everything was more mature. Plots, characters, character growth, personal relationships, settings...you name it, anime went where no American animator dared to go.
BTW, was anyone else surprised when they showed the skeletal remains of a murdered superhero in The Incredibles? That one scene really changed the whole feel of the movie in my opinion. Suddenly the danger became "real" to me. But more than that to me was the simple shock that they would dare to show such a thing in what was otherwise a true family movie. |
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BradH812
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
1294 Posts |
Posted - 08/10/2007 : 09:41:30 AM
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BTW, was anyone else surprised when they showed the skeletal remains of a murdered superhero in The Incredibles? That one scene really changed the whole feel of the movie in my opinion. Suddenly the danger became "real" to me. But more than that to me was the simple shock that they would dare to show such a thing in what was otherwise a true family movie.
Startling, yes, but they needed it. It really drove home Helen's advice to her kids: this isn't like their Saturday-morning cartoons. You mess up with these guys, and they'll kill you. Refreshing too see a family movie that assumes the kiddies, at least the older ones, will be able to handle stuff like this. (I can say the same about Bridge to Terabithia, for that matter.) |
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Flangepart
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
USA
2329 Posts |
Posted - 08/10/2007 : 12:46:41 PM
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Ah,yeah....
Gazerbeam.The extreas shows the storyboards of another character who got kilt off,but the Gazerbeam bit did the job, so they cut it.
Bambi's mam...yeah, i can see that...
"Medium,or extra-crisy"...heh heh heh.
Marvin the Paranoid Android to Buzz Lightyear "Too infinity and beyond-i've been there, its rubbish!"
"Hoody Hoo, i waste 'em with my cross bow!" Bob Herzog- KODT
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ahab
Preeminent Apostolic Prelate of the Discipleship of Jabootu
USA
148 Posts |
Posted - 08/10/2007 : 8:12:27 PM
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In Who framed roger rabbit the first toon death of that show was pretty shocking especially to my 10 yr old self
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Oh sure everyone wants to save Hitler's brain, but when you put it in a great white shark suddenly you've gone to far! |
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Sardu
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
1126 Posts |
Posted - 08/10/2007 : 8:19:14 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong but so far people have only mentioned features (anime excepted). has a 'toon ever died on a TV show?
Yeah yeah, besides Maude Flanders *g*. That really is pretty historic, the more I think about it...
"Meeting you makes me want to be a real noodle cook"
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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Spain
1590 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2007 : 05:37:54 AM
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In the Spanish TV series David el gnomo, starring a couple of elderly gnomes, both of them died (of natural causes and off-screen) in the last episode. My whole generation is traumatised.
See the moment at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3Tl2oRIh98
And I believe one of the villains in the Conan animated series was killed by the character who would become the new villain. |
Edited by - Neville on 08/11/2007 05:40:08 AM |
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Greenhornet
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
1791 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2007 : 8:32:03 PM
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I just remembered that TWO nameless extras died in the Superfriends episode, "Trial Of The superfriends". Here's how Roger Wilcox discribed it:
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Now, however, the Liquid Light has made its way into the town and is covering several streets to a depth of five or six feet. This is pretty remarkable, considering the original cauldron that Bizarro tipped over was only big enough to hold a few hundred gallons of the stuff, tops. But what's even more remarkable is that, on its way into the town, people got run over by the encroaching stream of Liquid Light. I had to go back and slow-mo through this scene just to make sure I wasn't imagining it:
Yes, it really happened. Plain as day, two people are running away from the Liquid Light in one frame, and in the next the Liquid Light has caught up with them and the two people are gone. We're talking death here. On a SuperFriends episode. That one must've squeaked by the network censors by the skin of its teeth.
This was in 1978?
I think a guard was killed by a giant mechanical spider in a Johnny Quest episode (Origonal) as well as a Nazi when a grenade got stuck in the wing of his plane. We saw the grenade go off and the plane crash.
"The Queen is testing poisons." CLEOPATRA, 1935 |
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Neville
Holy Cardinal and Five Star General of the Righteous Knighthood of Jabootu
Spain
1590 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2007 : 05:44:30 AM
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In James Bond Jr. a minion was killed by friendly fire once, the other monions mistook him for Bond Jr. I believe a "transform your identity gizmo" was somehow involved.
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